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ktbeasleyze
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2018-09-02 8:58 AM
Subject: Bred too YOUNG! Help me!!


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Okay guys....my fiance bought a yearling for me late this spring that turned 2 in June off a ranch in North Dakota as a pre-wedding gift and I'm crying because I just found out on Saturday that she is pregnant...and too far along to safely abort without risking injury to herself.

I contacted the ranch we bought her from and they are dealing with a few young mares that got bred also from a young colt that would apparently escape from his pen and then be smart enough to return in the morning. They have offered to return all the money put into her plus what we paid for her....

I really really like her but I'm scared about her well being. Does anyone have any experience with a mare that was bred this young?? Please help....she is the same size as my other 2yr olds and really thick made.

We bought her to be a back up roping horse as she is mostly cow bred (Docs Quixote / Peponita) then a sliver of Dash For Cash in there. Any advice would be greatly appreciated...............
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ThreeCorners
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2018-09-02 9:13 AM
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Β  It has happened before and while not ideal usually everything ends up alright. If she were mine, I would immediately start her on platinum performance vitamins and also add platinum performance osteon through foaling then just continue with the platinum performance. When she gets close to foaling I'd take her to my vet to foal out so she has competent immediate assistance if needed. Platinum Performance vitamins Trully are THAT GOOD far above the rest and trust me, I have tried them all! The p.p. osteon is specifically formulated for good bone development and both will be needed to not only meet her still growing needs but the foal as well.

Edited by ThreeCorners 2018-09-02 9:16 AM
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Delta Cowgirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2018-09-02 9:19 AM
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-09-02 9:29 AM
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Since you really like her just keep her, I would put/keep her on a really good diet with the best hay and alfalfa hay to add to her diet, but I would just feed a flake of the alfalfa twice a day, this is the way I feed alfalfa since my horses have good pasture to graze during the day and I feed a good feed {Bluebonnet and Triple Crown Lite to my one gelding that is IR} I would not start throwing to much supplements at her if you have her on a good diet if she looks and feels fine and growing. If you feel she needs supplements start her out slow, but I would just feed her a good diet, when I had a few mares in foal I would just add Calf Manna, I'm just more old fashion, just to many supplements out there and I get over whelmed by all the different ones out there, so I still like my Calf Manna for a mare in foal its my go to. 
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2018-09-02 10:59 AM
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First of all there are a lot of mares bred as two year olds for various reasons. When was she bred? While I am a Platinum fan and feed my performance horses Platinum Performance, I feed my broodmares GroStrong minerals because it is more cost effective for me. Either one is very good. I am sure that your horse will be fine as long as she is well fed but not too fat.
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2018-09-02 11:39 AM
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So while a colt can be smart enough to escape I do not believe for a moment they will return to the pen. Nope, not for a minute.
I had some friends that pastured their yearlings at a friends house that had pasture. Friend had a 2 yr old colt that was un cut in there unknown to the one with the yearlings. One filly had a baby and they just took it off her and bottle fed it. I don't think it did anything other than make the baby look puny. Feed the mama well and honestly everything should be ok. 
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2018-09-02 12:40 PM
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wyoming barrel racer - 2018-09-02 11:39 AM

So while a colt can be smart enough to escape I do not believe for a moment they will return to the pen. Nope, not for a minute.
I had some friends that pastured their yearlings at a friends house that had pasture. Friend had a 2 yr old colt that was un cut in there unknown to the one with the yearlings. One filly had a baby and they just took it off her and bottle fed it. I don't think it did anything other than make the baby look puny. Feed the mama well and honestly everything should be ok.Β 

I wish I could get mine to magically go back where they belong. I wake up some mornings and go out to feed and it is like musical pastures.
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madredepeanut
Reg. Aug 2017
Posted 2018-09-02 4:45 PM
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ThreeCorners - 2018-09-02 7:13 AM

Β  It has happened before and while not ideal usually everything ends up alright. If she were mine, I would immediately start her on platinum performance vitamins and also add platinum performance osteon through foaling then just continue with the platinum performance. When she gets close to foaling I'd take her to my vet to foal out so she has competent immediate assistance if needed. Platinum Performance vitamins Trully are THAT GOOD far above the rest and trust me, I have tried them all! The p.p. osteon is specifically formulated for good bone development and both will be needed to not only meet her still growing needs but the foal as well.

I definitely second the PP Osteon. My husband worked on a TB breeding farm for 11 years and they fed it to all their broodmares while pregnant, and then the foals as well. You probably don’t need to feed the entire recommended amount, we feed our girls 1/3 of a scoop as a maintenance dose along with LMF Super Supplement which is formulated for our area (huge selenium deficient area). If PP Osteon isn’t an option, then yes, feed the best hay possible because you have a growing filly growing a little fetus and her daily intake is going to be more than average.

A client of ours has a 4yo mare that was accidentally bred as a 2yo (bad situation- mare’s sire is the filly’s sire), and the mare foaled out just fine and everyone is happy and healthy a year later.
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CanCan
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Posted 2018-09-02 10:26 PM
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ktbeasleyze
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2018-09-03 8:07 PM
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wyoming barrel racer - 2018-09-02 12:39 PM

So while a colt can be smart enough to escape I do not believe for a moment they will return to the pen. Nope, not for a minute.
I had some friends that pastured their yearlings at a friends house that had pasture. Friend had a 2 yr old colt that was un cut in there unknown to the one with the yearlings. One filly had a baby and they just took it off her and bottle fed it. I don't think it did anything other than make the baby look puny. Feed the mama well and honestly everything should be ok.Β 

I do agree with the colt not likely returning to his pen....
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HarlanLivesOn
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2018-09-04 9:11 AM
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ktbeasleyze - 2018-09-03 7:07 PM

wyoming barrel racer - 2018-09-02 12:39 PM

So while a colt can be smart enough to escape I do not believe for a moment they will return to the pen. Nope, not for a minute.
I had some friends that pastured their yearlings at a friends house that had pasture. Friend had a 2 yr old colt that was un cut in there unknown to the one with the yearlings. One filly had a baby and they just took it off her and bottle fed it. I don't think it did anything other than make the baby look puny. Feed the mama well and honestly everything should be ok.Β 

I do agree with the colt not likely returning to his pen....

BUT at least the sellers are doing the right thing by offering to pay the purchase price + expenses back, even if the story is a little far fetched...
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ktbeasleyze
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2018-09-04 12:33 PM
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I just hope shes gonna be alright....they may not honestly know how it happened.
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Flamin10
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2018-09-04 1:05 PM
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Prayers for health and safety for both mom and baby.

Edited to add: Keep us posted on her progress for sure and next spring!!

Edited by Flamin10 2018-09-04 1:06 PM
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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2018-09-04 5:35 PM
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If you really like her, I say keep her. I also say blue bonnet intensify growth is the feed to feed her. Even if you choose to bottle feed the foal (which I don’t recommend). I have a foal that was orphaned at 30 days and he was on Mille replacer pellets (progressive foal Mille replacer pellets) and blue bonnet intensify growth. He is a 1000lb yearling right now.

Also I HIGHLY recommend feeding her OCD pellets throughout pregnancy and while the foal is nursing and even to the foal after weaning.

Avoid too much alfalfa (too much calcium) but avoid not ENOUGH calcium also. Know what is high in what like beet pulp is also super high in calcium, rice bran high in phosphorus. Just be aware.

Good luck!
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