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Freak accident: Nerve damage question UPDATE

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WiscoRacer
Reg. Jul 2015
Posted 2018-11-30 8:11 PM
Subject: Freak accident: Nerve damage question UPDATE


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UPDATE: It's been two weeks and we are back to riding! Treated with dex, banamine, laser therapy and he got adjusted a few days ago along with acupuncture. He was very sore in his shoulders (probably from being hung up) but his knee/pastern buckle is gone and we rode today as if nothing happened.

Long story short, friend and I went out to bring our horses in for the night and found both horses limping and the one horses blanket buckle on the front ripped off. Thinking what happened was my horse reared up, stuck his front left foot through the blanket front, cut himself and then landed on his right shoulder causing a nerve issue.

Darn horses will find anything to hurt themselves on.

It's very slight at the walk, looks like a misstep where his knee buckles a tad. Went to trot him on the straightaway and he about fell down his knee buckled so bad. Thinking radial nerve injury so we gave dex and bute and then treated with laser therapy. Anyone have any input or things I should do or shouldn't do?

My mom is a vet so don't tell me to go to the vet ;) I know what she has to say as far as treatment so looking for other experiences and opinions! She hasn't dealt a whole ton with nerve injuries.

Edited by WiscoRacer 2018-12-13 3:40 PM
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barrelracingchick16
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Posted 2018-12-01 6:54 AM
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If it is truly a nerve damage issue time and rest is the best treatment.... But other things that can help the process is vitamin E supplementation and laser therapy.
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Posted 2018-12-01 11:39 AM
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I have a horse with some.nasty nerve and muscle damage...he was originally diagnosed with wobblers....my chiro has helped him the most and magnawave..its been a long recovery..he got hurt july 2017 and i stil wont make a run on him....m
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-12-01 1:54 PM
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Did this just happen? How do you know for sure its nerve damage, could be just super sore if this just happen. 
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WiscoRacer
Reg. Jul 2015
Posted 2018-12-01 2:39 PM
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barrelracingchick16 - 2018-12-01 6:54 AM

If it is truly a nerve damage issue time and rest is the best treatment.... But other things that can help the process is vitamin E supplementation and laser therapy.

Sounds like I'm on the right track then, he got his first laser treatment last night and I already have him on Vitamin E :)
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WiscoRacer
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Posted 2018-12-01 2:42 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-01 1:54 PM

Did this just happen? How do you know for sure its nerve damage, could be just super sore if this just happen. 

Yes it just happened. We're guessing we caught it within an hour of happening. He's not "lame" per say, no head bob. Best way to describe it is he lifts his leg up higher than normal and sets it down very carefully. If I ask him to go faster than a slow walk, the knee and pastern buckle. When I ask him to trot, he about falls down because he can't use his leg. Look up mild radial nerve damage and you'll see what I mean.

ETA: I didn't just pull this out of thin air, the vet (my mom) is the one who said that's what she thinks it is. When we did laser therapy on it last night, he reacted pretty hard to where the radial nerve runs.

Edited by WiscoRacer 2018-12-01 2:44 PM
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-12-01 2:58 PM
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WiscoRacer - 2018-12-01 2:42 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-01 1:54 PM Did this just happen? How do you know for sure its nerve damage, could be just super sore if this just happen. 
Yes it just happened. We're guessing we caught it within an hour of happening. He's not "lame" per say, no head bob. Best way to describe it is he lifts his leg up higher than normal and sets it down very carefully. If I ask him to go faster than a slow walk, the knee and pastern buckle. When I ask him to trot, he about falls down because he can't use his leg. Look up mild radial nerve damage and you'll see what I mean. ETA: I didn't just pull this out of thin air, the vet (my mom) is the one who said that's what she thinks it is. When we did laser therapy on it last night, he reacted pretty hard to where the radial nerve runs.
Poor guy, I hope that hes just sore and he will get better as time gos by. Where at did he cut himself? Was the cut deep? 

Edited by Southtxponygirl 2018-12-01 5:30 PM
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readytorodeo
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Posted 2018-12-01 5:32 PM
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Laser therapy will help. Also BOT or PHT sheet and if you have access to a TheraPlate.
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WiscoRacer
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Posted 2018-12-02 9:55 AM
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Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-01 2:58 PM

WiscoRacer - 2018-12-01 2:42 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-01 1:54 PM Did this just happen? How do you know for sure its nerve damage, could be just super sore if this just happen. 
Yes it just happened. We're guessing we caught it within an hour of happening. He's not "lame" per say, no head bob. Best way to describe it is he lifts his leg up higher than normal and sets it down very carefully. If I ask him to go faster than a slow walk, the knee and pastern buckle. When I ask him to trot, he about falls down because he can't use his leg. Look up mild radial nerve damage and you'll see what I mean. ETA: I didn't just pull this out of thin air, the vet (my mom) is the one who said that's what she thinks it is. When we did laser therapy on it last night, he reacted pretty hard to where the radial nerve runs.
Poor guy, I hope that hes just sore and he will get better as time gos by. Where at did he cut himself? Was the cut deep? 

On the inside of his pastern; not terribly deep but enough that I threw him on antibiotics just in case. The cut is looking great. His knee buckle, not so much :( I'm trying not to look at him every 5 minutes so I can see a difference day by day. Just not so sure we'll be going to Arizona now at the end of the month
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WiscoRacer
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readytorodeo - 2018-12-01 5:32 PM

Laser therapy will help. Also BOT or PHT sheet and if you have access to a TheraPlate.

I'm going to pick up a magnacu sheet today and my friend is bringing a BOT one
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Posted 2018-12-02 12:26 PM
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WiscoRacer - 2018-12-01 1:39 PM
barrelracingchick16 - 2018-12-01 6:54 AM If it is truly a nerve damage issue time and rest is the best treatment.... But other things that can help the process is vitamin E supplementation and laser therapy.
Sounds like I'm on the right track then, he got his first laser treatment last night and I already have him on Vitamin E :)

Make sure it is a really good quality and NATURAL Vit E. When my horse was diagnosed with Wobblers I put him on THE Vit E and minimized his movement. He was found to have no compression and after the winter off, we had a great show season last year. I still keep him on the Vit E unless he is having a break in pasture. 
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WiscoRacer
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Posted 2018-12-03 1:39 AM
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wyoming barrel racer - 2018-12-02 12:26 PM

WiscoRacer - 2018-12-01 1:39 PM
barrelracingchick16 - 2018-12-01 6:54 AM If it is truly a nerve damage issue time and rest is the best treatment.... But other things that can help the process is vitamin E supplementation and laser therapy.
Sounds like I'm on the right track then, he got his first laser treatment last night and I already have him on Vitamin E :)

Make sure it is a really good quality and NATURAL Vit E. When my horse was diagnosed with Wobblers I put him on THE Vit E and minimized his movement. He was found to have no compression and after the winter off, we had a great show season last year. I still keep him on the Vit E unless he is having a break in pasture. 

Yes for sure! I had him on Santa Cruz natural vit e but recently switched to Eclipse PM by MVP since I needed selenium and magnesium as well. That has 4000 IU's so I'm supplementing with liquid natural vitamin e to bump him up to 10,000 IUs for a little while.
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WiscoRacer
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Posted 2018-12-13 6:09 PM
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Update posted above :)
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Chandler's Mom
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Posted 2018-12-13 10:30 PM
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bluerose2001
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Posted 2018-12-14 11:40 PM
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Just an FYI- I had a horse that fell at the biggest barrel race of the year. Seemed fine. No lameness. Ran the next day but I didn't push him and had no issues. Fast forward to the next weekend- ran, fell, and a lot of money with a veterinary Neurologist we later found out that his radial nerve tore. Probably stretched with the first fall. He was stall bound a month (LARGE 20x14 Stall). Was getting better and standing for longer periods of time. Then he became stall cast and I lost him even after us moving him and helping him stand again. My word of caution is to not rush a radial nerve injury. If I even suspected it, I would at a minimum give them 3 months off. Also in all my research to help him I found studies of the milk protein Microlactin decreasing inflammation and promoting nerve recovery. There is a joint supplement out there that has Microlactin in it. I just can't remember the name as it was 4 years ago. I also was giving large doses of Vitamin E. Maybe Health-E version. 
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WiscoRacer
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Posted 2018-12-15 7:13 AM
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bluerose2001 - 2018-12-14 11:40 PM

Just an FYI- I had a horse that fell at the biggest barrel race of the year. Seemed fine. No lameness. Ran the next day but I didn't push him and had no issues. Fast forward to the next weekend- ran, fell, and a lot of money with a veterinary Neurologist we later found out that his radial nerve tore. Probably stretched with the first fall. He was stall bound a month (LARGE 20x14 Stall). Was getting better and standing for longer periods of time. Then he became stall cast and I lost him even after us moving him and helping him stand again. My word of caution is to not rush a radial nerve injury. If I even suspected it, I would at a minimum give them 3 months off. Also in all my research to help him I found studies of the milk protein Microlactin decreasing inflammation and promoting nerve recovery. There is a joint supplement out there that has Microlactin in it. I just can't remember the name as it was 4 years ago. I also was giving large doses of Vitamin E. Maybe Health-E version. 

Thank you for your insight! In my case I'm confident that he's 100%. In nerve injuries, the first week of care is absolutely critical and my horse was treated extremely aggressively within an hour of the incident happening (thanks for choosing to be a vet, mom!)
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Southtxponygirl
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Posted 2018-12-15 8:44 AM
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Well glad to hear your horse is doing better, just take it easy with him and dont ask to much of him for at least another 4 to 5 weeks.   

Edited by Southtxponygirl 2018-12-15 8:45 AM
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WiscoRacer
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Southtxponygirl - 2018-12-15 8:44 AM

Well glad to hear your horse is doing better, just take it easy with him and dont ask to much of him for at least another 4 to 5 weeks.   

First race is on the 1st of the year
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