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Location: California | BFA sales looked low, what is everyone’s interpretation of the current horse market? Interested in thoughts and opinions.
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| Well, a 2yo cutter just sold for a record $500k at the NCHA Futurity sale with more horses bringing over $100k than last year.
I did see a full sister to Streakin Queenie sold for $70,000...
Was it that this crop (as a whole) at the BFA was not as well bred as past years?
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| scwebster - 2018-12-10 2:51 PM Well, a 2yo cutter just sold for a record $500k at the NCHA Futurity sale with more horses bringing more than $100k than last year.
I did see a full sister to Streakin Queenie sold for $70,000...
Was it that this crop (as a whole) at the BFA was not as well bred as past years?
It did look like a weaker group on paper in my opinion. |
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Location: California | scwebster - 2018-12-10 12:51 PM
Well, a 2yo cutter just sold for a record $500k at the NCHA Futurity sale with more horses bringing over $100k than last year.
I did see a full sister to Streakin Queenie sold for $70,000...
Was it that this crop (as a whole) at the BFA was not as well bred as past years?
I was obviously talking about the barrel horse sales and market. |
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Location: Idaho | I thought horses sold for what I'd buy them for... I watched it on facebook live and I was predicting what it would bring and I was pretty dang close each time, except for the high seller, i thought she'd bring around $45k... so I was a little off with her going for $70k |
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Personally I just feel like the market is oversupplied to many horses per buyers. Maybe ET is not just a good thing for the market cause there sure are lots and lots of horses for sale. But what do I know? |
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| The barrel industry is bad about thinking if a mare has a uterus, that means it’s ok to breed. I’ve never seen a race horse owner go on a forum and say, “my mare raced but always ran at the back of the pack, but I want to breed her (even though she’s got nothing in her pedigree) and I’ll never sell the foal”. |
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| SKM - 2018-12-10 6:41 PM The barrel industry is bad about thinking if a mare has a uterus, that means it’s ok to breed. I’ve never seen a race horse owner go on a forum and say, “my mare raced but always ran at the back of the pack, but I want to breed her (even though she’s got nothing in her pedigree) and I’ll never sell the foal”.
Race horses don’t have a d format though. We pay people to have a slow horse. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Whiteboy - 2018-12-10 8:21 PM SKM - 2018-12-10 6:41 PM The barrel industry is bad about thinking if a mare has a uterus, that means it’s ok to breed. I’ve never seen a race horse owner go on a forum and say, “my mare raced but always ran at the back of the pack, but I want to breed her (even though she’s got nothing in her pedigree) and I’ll never sell the foal”. Race horses don’t have a d format though. We pay people to have a slow horse.
then don't whine about cheap sale prices.
Slow is cheap
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| Whiteboy - 2018-12-10 6:21 PM
SKM - 2018-12-10 6:41 PM The barrel industry is bad about thinking if a mare has a uterus, that means it’s ok to breed. I’ve never seen a race horse owner go on a forum and say, “my mare raced but always ran at the back of the pack, but I want to breed her (even though she’s got nothing in her pedigree) and I’ll never sell the foal”.
Race horses don’t have a d format though. We pay people to have a slow horse.
Then people shouldn’t complain when a market tanks and prices are cheap or there are too many mediocre horses flooding the market. |
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| 1DSoon - 2018-12-10 7:33 PM Whiteboy - 2018-12-10 8:21 PM SKM - 2018-12-10 6:41 PM The barrel industry is bad about thinking if a mare has a uterus, that means it’s ok to breed. I’ve never seen a race horse owner go on a forum and say, “my mare raced but always ran at the back of the pack, but I want to breed her (even though she’s got nothing in her pedigree) and I’ll never sell the foal”. Race horses don’t have a d format though. We pay people to have a slow horse.
Slow is cheap
I agree, but this is as much on the stallion owners as it is the mare owners. It's not just a rich mans sport yet, and that is a good thing. |
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| Whiteboy - 2018-12-11 9:50 AM 1DSoon - 2018-12-10 7:33 PM Whiteboy - 2018-12-10 8:21 PM SKM - 2018-12-10 6:41 PM The barrel industry is bad about thinking if a mare has a uterus, that means it’s ok to breed. I’ve never seen a race horse owner go on a forum and say, “my mare raced but always ran at the back of the pack, but I want to breed her (even though she’s got nothing in her pedigree) and I’ll never sell the foal”. Race horses don’t have a d format though. We pay people to have a slow horse.
Slow is cheap
My two cents on this --
No matter the bloodlines not all horses are going to clock 1D, or even 2D.
A good, reliable, ready - steady, check winning, sound and sane 3D horse should be worth something too. Not the prices that the show winning horses carry of course, but you can win a lot of $$'s if your horse wins money in the 3D 90% of their entries over a 10+ year career. And the papers on such a horse will range the gambit of QH bloodlines.
One other thought - when the 1D and 2D have 100 finishers each (say at a 400-500 entry show), how will breeding and the market respond? We have certainly succeeded at breeding the better barrel horse and this scenario probably isn't more than a few years down the road. Will we develop a .25 split? Will 90 top money 1D and 2D horses go home from most shows with nothing to show? How could you justify spending 50K+ on a horse that might or might not ever hit money? Just a little food for thought when contemplating the future of barrel racing.
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| *almost there* - 2018-12-10 4:03 PM scwebster - 2018-12-10 12:51 PM Well, a 2yo cutter just sold for a record $500k at the NCHA Futurity sale with more horses bringing over $100k than last year.
I did see a full sister to Streakin Queenie sold for $70,000...
Was it that this crop (as a whole) at the BFA was not as well bred as past years?
I was obviously talking about the barrel horse sales and market.
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Location: Arkansas | scwebster - 2018-12-11 10:34 AM
*almost there* - 2018-12-10 4:03 PM scwebster - 2018-12-10 12:51 PM Well, a 2yo cutter just sold for a record $500k at the NCHA Futurity sale with more horses bringing over $100k than last year.
I did see a full sister to Streakin Queenie sold for $70,000...
Was it that this crop (as a whole) at the BFA was not as well bred as past years?
I was obviously talking about the barrel horse sales and market.
Since I care about the cutters too (!!), how was the 2 yo bred? |
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| Chandler's Mom - 2018-12-11 9:27 PM scwebster - 2018-12-11 10:34 AM *almost there* - 2018-12-10 4:03 PM scwebster - 2018-12-10 12:51 PM Well, a 2yo cutter just sold for a record $500k at the NCHA Futurity sale with more horses bringing over $100k than last year.
I did see a full sister to Streakin Queenie sold for $70,000...
Was it that this crop (as a whole) at the BFA was not as well bred as past years?
I was obviously talking about the barrel horse sales and market. Since I care about the cutters too (!! ), how was the 2 yo bred?
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Location: Arkansas | scwebster - 2018-12-12 9:31 AM
Chandler's Mom - 2018-12-11 9:27 PM scwebster - 2018-12-11 10:34 AM *almost there* - 2018-12-10 4:03 PM scwebster - 2018-12-10 12:51 PM Well, a 2yo cutter just sold for a record $500k at the NCHA Futurity sale with more horses bringing over $100k than last year.
I did see a full sister to Streakin Queenie sold for $70,000...
Was it that this crop (as a whole) at the BFA was not as well bred as past years?
I was obviously talking about the barrel horse sales and market. Since I care about the cutters too (!! ), how was the 2 yo bred?
No wonder such a nice price!!! |
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