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kj11
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2018-11-09 2:23 PM
Subject: mare/gelding combo causing continual heat cycle?



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I am dealing with a different kind of buddy sour scenario than I have seen before.. teenage hormones may be a better way to describe it?? I have always had a mixed pasture and/or hauled a mix of mares and geldings without ever having an issue with them either loving or hating one another. My main horse I run is an older gelding, been pastured with a mare for 4 years, likes her but not the attached at a hip kind of relationship where either one will fall apart when the other leaves. He hauls with my daughters older mare and same thing, they seem to like each other just fine but not attached nor do they appear to dislike each other.

Enter a 5 year old mare I bought in July. From day 1 this mare and my gelding have seemed infatuated with each other. I have this mare in a pasture by herself but she has shared a fence line with the pony gelding and my yearling gelding. Again seems to like them fine, no squealing, squatting etc just hangs out along the fence line if they happen to be there but doesn't call to them or cause drama.

Since there seemed to be more interest between my older gelding and new mare I have kept them pretty separate, I do not allow them to share a fence line, when hauled there is either an empty hole or a horse between them and they are tied on opposite sides of the trailer... all has worked without a hitch. But in riding at the house I will have one of them tied while riding the other, at the beginning of every ride when I bring the other one to the arena they will talk to each other, I scold my gelding and he will zip it and so will she but she will still squat... and the hussy will be a good 15-20 feet away from him

This is just a minor annoyance (so far) as neither have been naughty or downright defiant because their forbidden love happens to be within eyesight but there is a wandering eye that causes a bit of a distraction while I am trying to get one of them rode while the other one waits their turn. This isn't the usual buddy sour like horse falling to pieces when their buddy leaves since they both keep their heads but is there anything that might help them (mainly the mare) keep her head in the right direction? I imagine being in hormone overdrive with this one gelding in particular could make for a sore back?? Is this something I should just continue to handle their logistics with care and tip toe around or are there any other suggestions?
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Nateracer
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2018-11-09 3:09 PM
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I give my mare and 2 geldings Moody Mare from T.H.E  (makers of Muscle Mass). Works like  charm.

My 18yo gelding was gelded late and had too many Man hormones.  He'd attack my 24yo gelding when she came in heat.  You couldn't tell with her.  She isn't a hussy, thank goodness.  BUT he could smell her and the fight would be on.  

The Moody Mare lightened her heat cycles and it calmed his hormones.  They get along quite well now with no issues. 
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2018-11-09 3:16 PM
Subject: RE: mare/gelding combo causing continual heat cycle?



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My mare was a queen hussy, a B***** and a WH******. She has been on regumate every single day, 365 days a year, for the past 3 years and all is calm and well in horsey land!
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-11-09 3:19 PM
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I would try mare magic on the both of them for a while, its cheap and easy to use, I would keep them on it for 3 or 4 months and then take one of them off of it and see what happens.. Its super cheap.. 
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kj11
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2018-11-13 2:43 PM
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Thank you guys! I will look into these options! I will admit I am a bit hesitant on the regumate, I think I have read something about being very careful while handling it yourself to avoid getting it on my skin?? The feed throughs might be more up my alley to see if I can calm the ever roaring hormones
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2018-11-13 2:56 PM
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kj11 - 2018-11-13 12:43 PM

Thank you guys! I will look into these options! I will admit I am a bit hesitant on the regumate, I think I have read something about being very careful while handling it yourself to avoid getting it on my skin?? The feed throughs might be more up my alley to see if I can calm the ever roaring hormones

You are absolutely correct on not wanting it on your skin, especially if your female. I wear my gloves each and every time!! And I am a guy! However, the pain and discomfort my mare was in before I put her on it makes it so worth it now that she is happy camper. And most feed throughs are a complete waste of money!

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kj11
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2018-11-13 4:19 PM
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kj11 - 2018-11-13 12:43 PM

Thank you guys! I will look into these options! I will admit I am a bit hesitant on the regumate, I think I have read something about being very careful while handling it yourself to avoid getting it on my skin?? The feed throughs might be more up my alley to see if I can calm the ever roaring hormones

You are absolutely correct on not wanting it on your skin, especially if your female. I wear my gloves each and every time!! And I am a guy! However, the pain and discomfort my mare was in before I put her on it makes it so worth it now that she is happy camper. And most feed throughs are a complete waste of money!

Darn! Well I guess I will do some more reading. I would really rather forgo the process of regumate but.... maybe it will prove to be what I need to do for her. I obviously have no experience having to give it to any mares so maybe I am making it more difficult in my mind than I should be LOL

She hasn't presented with any back soreness but I would assume she is feeling something more than most if she is acting the way she is ALL.THE.TIME around this gelding? Do most mares with severe cycles typically show soreness in the way of tender backs or poor attitudes when asking for work? I am just trying to figure out if this deal is affecting her physically or its just something that is causing a mental distraction around my gelding if that makes sense?
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-11-13 4:26 PM
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I would start with simple first and see how it works..if simple dont work then go to the harder stuff. 
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2018-11-13 4:53 PM
Subject: RE: mare/gelding combo causing continual heat cycle?



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kj11 - 2018-11-13 2:19 PM

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kj11 - 2018-11-13 12:43 PM

Thank you guys! I will look into these options! I will admit I am a bit hesitant on the regumate, I think I have read something about being very careful while handling it yourself to avoid getting it on my skin?? The feed throughs might be more up my alley to see if I can calm the ever roaring hormones

You are absolutely correct on not wanting it on your skin, especially if your female. I wear my gloves each and every time!! And I am a guy! However, the pain and discomfort my mare was in before I put her on it makes it so worth it now that she is happy camper. And most feed throughs are a complete waste of money!

Darn! Well I guess I will do some more reading. I would really rather forgo the process of regumate but.... maybe it will prove to be what I need to do for her. I obviously have no experience having to give it to any mares so maybe I am making it more difficult in my mind than I should be LOL

She hasn't presented with any back soreness but I would assume she is feeling something more than most if she is acting the way she is ALL.THE.TIME around this gelding? Do most mares with severe cycles typically show soreness in the way of tender backs or poor attitudes when asking for work? I am just trying to figure out if this deal is affecting her physically or its just something that is causing a mental distraction around my gelding if that makes sense?

You can also give a shot that lasts 1-2 weeks. Might be an option rather than handling the regumate every day.
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phillyincal
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2018-11-14 8:23 AM
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FLITASTIC - 2018-11-14 2:53 PM

kj11 - 2018-11-13 2:19 PM

FLITASTIC - 2018-11-13 12:56 PM

kj11 - 2018-11-13 12:43 PM

Thank you guys! I will look into these options! I will admit I am a bit hesitant on the regumate, I think I have read something about being very careful while handling it yourself to avoid getting it on my skin?? The feed throughs might be more up my alley to see if I can calm the ever roaring hormones

You are absolutely correct on not wanting it on your skin, especially if your female. I wear my gloves each and every time!! And I am a guy! However, the pain and discomfort my mare was in before I put her on it makes it so worth it now that she is happy camper. And most feed throughs are a complete waste of money!

Darn! Well I guess I will do some more reading. I would really rather forgo the process of regumate but.... maybe it will prove to be what I need to do for her. I obviously have no experience having to give it to any mares so maybe I am making it more difficult in my mind than I should be LOL

She hasn't presented with any back soreness but I would assume she is feeling something more than most if she is acting the way she is ALL.THE.TIME around this gelding? Do most mares with severe cycles typically show soreness in the way of tender backs or poor attitudes when asking for work? I am just trying to figure out if this deal is affecting her physically or its just something that is causing a mental distraction around my gelding if that makes sense?

You can also give a shot that lasts 1-2 weeks. Might be an option rather than handling the regumate every day.

That is what I do, it’s called altrenogest and I get it from BET Pharm. Each shot lasts 12 days. I agree about starting small and cheap because once you get to the prescription meds it isn’t cheap! I have also heard depo shots can work and only have to be given a few times a year. Good luck!
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kj11
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2018-11-14 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: mare/gelding combo causing continual heat cycle?



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kj11 - 2018-11-13 2:19 PM

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kj11 - 2018-11-13 12:43 PM

Thank you guys! I will look into these options! I will admit I am a bit hesitant on the regumate, I think I have read something about being very careful while handling it yourself to avoid getting it on my skin?? The feed throughs might be more up my alley to see if I can calm the ever roaring hormones

You are absolutely correct on not wanting it on your skin, especially if your female. I wear my gloves each and every time!! And I am a guy! However, the pain and discomfort my mare was in before I put her on it makes it so worth it now that she is happy camper. And most feed throughs are a complete waste of money!

Darn! Well I guess I will do some more reading. I would really rather forgo the process of regumate but.... maybe it will prove to be what I need to do for her. I obviously have no experience having to give it to any mares so maybe I am making it more difficult in my mind than I should be LOL

She hasn't presented with any back soreness but I would assume she is feeling something more than most if she is acting the way she is ALL.THE.TIME around this gelding? Do most mares with severe cycles typically show soreness in the way of tender backs or poor attitudes when asking for work? I am just trying to figure out if this deal is affecting her physically or its just something that is causing a mental distraction around my gelding if that makes sense?

You can also give a shot that lasts 1-2 weeks. Might be an option rather than handling the regumate every day.

That is what I do, it’s called altrenogest and I get it from BET Pharm. Each shot lasts 12 days. I agree about starting small and cheap because once you get to the prescription meds it isn’t cheap! I have also heard depo shots can work and only have to be given a few times a year. Good luck!

These shots or regumate, do they cause issues later should this mare end up in the breeding barn? Currently no plans to breed her but one never knows I suppose, she's 5 and I would like to keep options open so I am curious if these kinds of avenues might pose issues for her later? And yes cost is another element to the puzzle, the most effective route as cheap as possible would be fantastic
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