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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2020-01-27 10:03 AM
Subject: virginia again very scarey


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https://legiscan.com/VA/bill/SB64/2020

The State of Virginia, now entirely run by truly insane Democrats who support infanticide and child murder, is proposing a new 2020 law known as SB64 (see link here) which will be taken up by the Democrat-run Senate beginning January 8, 2020.

The law would instantly transform all martial arts instructors into criminal felons. This includes instructors who teach kickboxing, BJJ, Krav Maga, boxing and even Capoeira.

It would also criminalize all firearms training classes, including concealed carry classes.

It would even criminalize a father teaching his own son how to use a hunting rifle.

Specifically, the law says that a person “is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity” (a class 5 felony) if that person:

“Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons…”

The phrase “technique capable of causing injury or death to persons” covers all forms of martial arts and self-defense training, including Krav Maga, BJJ, boxing and other contact martial arts such as Tae Kwon Do or Tai Chi.

Under the proposed law, all forms of self-defense training — including hand-to-hand martial arts training — would be considered “paramilitary activity,” even if the training consists of private classes involving just one instructor and one student. That’s because every form of martial arts training imparts skills which could be used to cause injury to other persons.

In fact, according to the language of the law, just “one” person learning such arts is a

felony crime, which means that watching a DVD on Krav Maga would be a felony crime.

Here is the full text of the proposed law:

SENATE BILL NO. 64
Offered January 8, 2020
Prefiled November 21, 2019
A BILL to amend and reenact §18.2-433.2 of the Code of Virginia, relating to paramilitary activities; penalty.

Bill Title: Paramilitary activities; penalty.
Spectrum: Partisan Bill (Democrat 1-0)
Status: (Introduced) 2019-11-21 – Referred to Committee for Courts of Justice
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Patron– Lucas
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Referred to Committee for Courts of Justice
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Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia:

1. That §18.2-433.2 of the Code of Virginia is amended and reenacted as follows:

§18.2-433.2. Paramilitary activity prohibited; penalty.

A person shall be is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity, punishable as a Class 5 felony if he:

1. Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

2. Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.

2. That the provisions of this act may result in a net increase in periods of imprisonment or commitment. Pursuant to §30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of imprisonment in state adult correctional facilities; therefore, Chapter 854 of the Acts of Assembly of 2019 requires the Virginia Criminal Sentencing Commission to assign a minimum fiscal impact of $50,000. Pursuant to §30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of commitment to the custody of the Department of Juvenile Justice.

See the full text yourself at this link. (NOTE: After this story went live, they changed the URL of the full text of the law in order to hide it. The text of the law, reprinted above, is word-for-word accurate from Legiscan.com as of the publication date of this article. Treasonous Virginia Democrats don’t want you to know the truth about the tyranny they are about to roll out, probably with a secret midnight vote when no one is paying attention…)

 

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lonely va barrelxr
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2020-01-27 11:26 AM
Subject: RE: virginia again very scarey



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The ellipsis is most commonly represented by three periods (. . . ) although it is occasionally demonstrated with three asterisks (***). The ellipsis is used in writing or printing to indicate an omission, especially of letters or words.

 

Quite the omission. 

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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2020-01-27 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: virginia again very scarey


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lonely va barrelxr - 2020-01-27 12:26 PM


 


The ellipsis is most commonly represented by three periods (. . . ) although it is occasionally demonstrated with three asterisks (***). The ellipsis is used in writing or printing to indicate an omission, especially of letters or words.


 


Quite the omission. 


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lonely va barrelxr
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2020-01-27 12:17 PM
Subject: RE: virginia again very scarey



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vjls - 2020-01-27 1:13 PM


lonely va barrelxr - 2020-01-27 12:26 PM


 


The ellipsis is most commonly represented by three periods (. . . ) although it is occasionally demonstrated with three asterisks (***). The ellipsis is used in writing or printing to indicate an omission, especially of letters or words.


 


Quite the omission. 



what did i screw up on   and i try and fix


 

 

The verbiage after the . . . states that these activities would be prohibited if they were for training for civil disobedience. Not for, say, getting your conceal carry license or general safe gun use. Or training for self defense. That makes the bill a little more reasonable.

I don't disagree with the first part -- Virginia is going the way of the loonie Dems. Fairfax County is just too big, too rich, and too liberal. And yet it is the home of most of the violent crimes and a hotbed for the gangs and what cartel activites there are in VA. 

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2020-01-27 12:59 PM
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If you think garden-variety Democrats are controlling, wait until socialism/communism gets a foothold.  AOC is in Iowa stumping for Bernie Sanders (who is in Washington trying to help remove the President we voted into office) and she wants ICE and the Border Patrol done away with.  Try to imagine the millions of people all over the world overwhelming the U.S. if any one of the presidental candidates on the Dem side were to win the election.  They all want open borders and just for starters free health care for illegals.  

 

 

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JLazyT_perf_horses
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2020-01-27 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: virginia again very scarey



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lonely va barrelxr - 2020-01-27 12:17 PM


vjls - 2020-01-27 1:13 PM


lonely va barrelxr - 2020-01-27 12:26 PM


 


The ellipsis is most commonly represented by three periods (. . . ) although it is occasionally demonstrated with three asterisks (***). The ellipsis is used in writing or printing to indicate an omission, especially of letters or words.


 


Quite the omission. 



what did i screw up on   and i try and fix



 


 


The verbiage after the . . . states that these activities would be prohibited if they were for training for civil disobedience. Not for, say, getting your conceal carry license or general safe gun use. Or training for self defense. That makes the bill a little more reasonable.


I don't disagree with the first part -- Virginia is going the way of the loonie Dems. Fairfax County is just too big, too rich, and too liberal. And yet it is the home of most of the violent crimes and a hotbed for the gangs and what cartel activites there are in VA. 


There's lots of ways to interpret it, I took it as being fine unless say you're going to use it to attack someone or a place or actual planned violence. However Dems we know how the Dems are with their interpretations. The biggest issue I see with it, is it would include defending yourself/house/firearms if they were to come take them. You can't do a single thing to stop them from coming in and taking all your firearms, weapons, or whatever they wanted really. If you were to fight back you're screwed basically. I think thats the agenda this is going towards really. But I also know that the people are going to say f*** it and start shooting anyone that tries to strip them of their firearms, or at least I hope they would. 

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OregonBR
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2020-01-28 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: virginia again very scarey


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The thought police. 

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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2020-01-28 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: virginia again very scarey



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God help us all if these people come to power. . . 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-01-28 4:23 PM
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Its going to get even scarier if the Dems get their way

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BS Hauler
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2020-01-28 7:47 PM
Subject: RE: virginia again very scarey


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it's going to get real scary for libs .

 

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