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| I'm looking at buying an awesome bred thoroughbred stallion. This studs sire is producing a lot of earners on the track and his get are producing earners. The stud himself has produced some fast offspring. He's built more like a quarter horse than a thoroughbred. What are the negatives of adding speed to my foals using a thoroughbred sire? |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | The only thing I can say it that your babys will be appendix {yellow papers} but thats never bother me, I have bought Appendix horses But I cant see any negative's. I have a Leaving Memories son out of a thoroughbred mare nothing wrong with him except hes got a not so pretty tail, lol. |
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  Location: Rc | As above post stated, they will be registered as appendix (ofc). With the right mare and the right stud, an appendix foal will come out just as great as a quarter (proper training also counts). I know Fallon Taylor has many appendix or horses that are influenced by thoroughbreds. I would like to add that she isn't a 'Fan Favorite' currently. 
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| Grunt2007 - 2020-08-24 8:48 PM
I'm looking at buying an awesome bred thoroughbred stallion. This studs sire is producing a lot of earners on the track and his get are producing earners. The stud himself has produced some fast offspring. He's built more like a quarter horse than a thoroughbred. What are the negatives of adding speed to my foals using a thoroughbred sire?
What distances are the "winners" running? How do they chart out off the gate? I don't mind the TB at all, but I like to see sprinters and ones that are really quick out of the gate. |
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| KindaClassey - 2020-08-25 6:39 AM
Grunt2007 - 2020-08-24 8:48 PM
I'm looking at buying an awesome bred thoroughbred stallion. This studs sire is producing a lot of earners on the track and his get are producing earners. The stud himself has produced some fast offspring. He's built more like a quarter horse than a thoroughbred. What are the negatives of adding speed to my foals using a thoroughbred sire?
What distances are the "winners" running? How do they chart out off the gate? I don't mind the TB at all, but I like to see sprinters and ones that are really quick out of the gate.
He is a son of Distorted Humor. |
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| My perspective...It doesn't matter who he is a son of (I dont mean that in a rude way). A stud must have a performance record or produce record(which takes much longer). If they don't have one of those two, you will never be more than a locally recognized name pulling a few local mares (probably less than 10 year). I dont know if yours has either of those, hopefully he does. The second thing is people breed for specific disiplines. If you are going to breed for a barrel horse, most will breed TO a barrel horse. Very few are willing to take the long shot and breed to something made for a different event. This all equals less mares. Money- be prepared to spend lots of money to promote. Studs are a pain. Everybody wants one. In the barrel world, everybody has one. Most should be geldings. If I were you, and I was set up to have a stud, and I had lots of extra money to burn, and I loved it, and I was okay if the only mares I bred were my own, and I had a plan for babies that probably wouldn't sell for more than $1500....Then I'd do it.
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   Location: Claremore, OK | Grunt2007 - 2020-08-24 8:48 PM
I'm looking at buying an awesome bred thoroughbred stallion. This studs sire is producing a lot of earners on the track and his get are producing earners. The stud himself has produced some fast offspring. He's built more like a quarter horse than a thoroughbred. What are the negatives of adding speed to my foals using a thoroughbred sire?
If I wanted to race Tbs I would buy or breed to an awesome bred TB stud. For many years, the good sprinting Tbs have looked Qh. if you want to breed and sell barre horses the market demands good QH bloodlines.Raising horses wirh appendix papers would be the least of your worries. I won 5th at Fort Smith on a horse by a TB stud and he went on to win a lot. Those days of people taking a chance on a half TB horse are pretty much over. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Since I know nothing about Thorughbred's and I had my pick of stallions to breed to I'm going to go with a Quarter horse of my picking because I'm going to know the names on his papers, I know nothing/nada about Througbreds except the famous ones that has won the Kentucky Derby Triple Crowns, lol..I have appendix horses but never knew who the Thoroughbred was since they were farther down the bloodlines. Are you looking to stand the Stud or just breeding your own and selling off the babys as a hobby? Good Luck in whatever you do  |
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  Location: Rc | Whiteboy - 2020-08-25 7:02 AM
My perspective...It doesn't matter who he is a son of (I dont mean that in a rude way). A stud must have a performance record or produce record(which takes much longer). If they don't have one of those two, you will never be more than a locally recognized name pulling a few local mares (probably less than 10 year). I dont know if yours has either of those, hopefully he does.
The second thing is people breed for specific disiplines. If you are going to breed for a barrel horse, most will breed TO a barrel horse. Very few are willing to take the long shot and breed to something made for a different event. This all equals less mares.
Money- be prepared to spend lots of money to promote.
Studs are a pain. Everybody wants one. In the barrel world, everybody has one. Most should be geldings.
If I were you, and I was set up to have a stud, and I had lots of extra money to burn, and I loved it, and I was okay if the only mares I bred were my own, and I had a plan for babies that probably wouldn't sell for more than $1500....Then I'd do it.
Well Said!  
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   Location: OH | Standing a stud can be challenging all by itself, but to take an unknown, to the barrel world, and try and make it work ??? That is a hill I wouldn't want to climb but with that being said---it is your decision. If you believe he has the IT factor---give it a whirl. My suggestion is to have a good band of your own mares to breed to him at first. Get those babies out and winning some money and you'll be able to make a go of it. |
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| I personally love crossing TB mares on QH stallions, and have had no problem selling them. We are very meticulous on our crosses though, and choose stallions that will complement our mares- it's a process for us. My personal opinion is that the barrel industry needs some new blood- look at the impact Three Bars, Beduino, etc. had on the quarter horse breed. Distorted Humor is one of the TB bloodlines we've been keeping an eye out for mares by, I think he would cross very well on certain cowbred stallions. Know of any own daughters of DH for sale?
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| Thanks for the replies everyone. |
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| madredepeanut - 2020-09-01 1:10 AM I personally love crossing TB mares on QH stallions, and have had no problem selling them. We are very meticulous on our crosses though, and choose stallions that will complement our mares- it's a process for us. My personal opinion is that the barrel industry needs some new blood- look at the impact Three Bars, Beduino, etc. had on the quarter horse breed. Distorted Humor is one of the TB bloodlines we've been keeping an eye out for mares by, I think he would cross very well on certain cowbred stallions. Know of any own daughters of DH for sale? I don't know of any daughters available but I know of a son standing :) I might have some granddaughters in a year or two.
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