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Location: Cleveland, GA | ok. i have a 3 year old that i just had his hocks injected last tuesday.. and today he is still pretty sore in his back.. i had the vet out today , the one that i use for shots and such (not the one that injected him) and he said his back was really sore, so he said he thought growing pains because his hips are higher than his withers.. ok this i dont know about. . my saddle fits, his teeth are ok other than hes teething, i just need to know where to go from here..i dont want to ride him when he is this sore...anyone know what else this could be if not hocks or maybe he needs some time off? ya'll are so good with suggestions, so hit me with them.... |
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Location: Here | You had a three year olds hocks injected??????
Did you have xrays? were they dry?
Sorry don't mean to sound critical but just seemed really young for hock injections.... |
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Location: Out of the closet! | Was the reason for the hocks being injected because of the soreness in his back??? |
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Location: Cleveland, GA | he will be 4 in may but i took him to a vet that is supposed to be one of the best around this area.. he has been on the track for 30 plus years.. no.. he didnt xray.. he just said he showed hock soreness from points on the back.. but he is still sore today..i watched when he injected and i saw clear fluid come out which i thought was normal... so i thought i would ask the board people to give suggestions... |
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Location: SE KS | could he be out if his hips are higher than his withers???..... he should be in line with his whole body.... and he is 3 being injected.....???? did you have xrays.....??? maybe take him to a chiro.... just a suggestion... but that is a concern that he is 3 and already being injected...... pretty young.... |
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Location: Here | no problem I really wasn't being judgemental!!!! Just surprised. Yes the clear fluid is normal. ALso you have to remember I am a chick that just doesn't like to inject..... especially without xrays. I would find me another opinion. Sounds like it could be chiropractic or muscle. I would start there or get some xrays |
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Location: Out of the closet! | What did he inject with???? |
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Location: Here | Originally written by Dan on 2004-04-12 2:41 PM
What did he inject with???? Good point!!!! |
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Go Your Own Way
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Location: SE KS | just a another thought... when was the last time you wormed your horse.... sometimes ours gets an ouchy back when they are wormy..... ours stay in the pens....and are not turned out, so they are with the cattle...etc...... and ouchy when they are out.... Especially my husband ropin' horse... just another thought...... |
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Location: Haskell, Ok | I had a 3 yr old that his front end hadnt caught up with this rear end and it felt like you were ridind down hill and he felt really sore..so I let him have a break put him on some good bone growth supp. and he ended nice and even and was a totally different horse that used his rear end alot more. |
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Location: Arizona | I don't have much in the way practical knowledge to offer, but a second opinion is never a bad thing--if you don't agree with the second opinion, that's fine, but at least you have additional input to weigh on any decision. I would have to wonder what caused the stress on those joints to require injections at that age--is this a horse you plan to futurity that has maybe been stressed physically more than most of their peers? Or maybe there's something with saddle, other musculoskeletal issues contributing? There was also another recent post about sore back and possible shoeing issues somewhere on here--some good advice there, too.
Edited by roan critter 2004-04-12 2:53 PM
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Fuzzy Navel
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Location: Cleveland, GA | i have no idea what he injected him with... i never really thought to ask.. stupid... ... and i have wormed him but when i got him in the summer he was really wormy. i have wormed him on a regular basis since then but he still isnt shedding out like i think he should.. maybe he needs wormed again but i didnt want to over do that because of toxins.. maybe i should try the herbal wormer? |
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Location: Texas | I`m riding my 3 year old right now and when her hips grow taller than her wither her back gets sore. I have noticed that with all my young horses I have ever ridden. When they grow the saddle does not fit them like it should and they get sore. When his wither catches up, he should not get sore anymore. |
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Location: SE KS | ok.... do you rotate which wormer that you use? I don't use the same wormers. I rotate between quest and panacur, and their is another one.... don't feel stupid, when you take your hosrse to be injected you are entrustng that the professional who is doing it knows what he is doing..... and using the fluid that is correct they hyla (sp?) fluid...... and are you wanting to futurity him..... if so then i would take him to a chiro , take him to a equine vet, i have to travel 2 hours to our equine vet, the local vet is good for easy things,. but a good equine vet, and go from there... if you are not wanting to futurity him.... I would turn him out, to let him be a horse for awhile, and possibly let hime do some growing, and let everything catch up with out the stress on his joints, and bone growth..... i hope this helps you... i'm thinking of your horse.... and i hope to making you feel better. At three and 4 they are still growing and their bones have not fused yet...... hope this make sense.... |
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Location: Here | Originally written by ngapeach on 2004-04-12 2:56 PM i have no idea what he injected him with... i never really thought to ask.. stupid...... and i have wormed him but when i got him in the summer he was really wormy. i have wormed him on a regular basis since then but he still isnt shedding out like i think he should.. maybe he needs wormed again but i didnt want to over do that because of toxins.. maybe i should try the herbal wormer? I know that the DE from TLC really has made mine shed out faster and look better |
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Location: Coffeyville KS | on the subjec of what the vet injected in hocks. What does your vets inject with. Someone told me that Dr. White in Salisaw uses different than Dr. Antle does. Any thoughts on this? Antle Uses Vetalog and ? can not remember other one. |
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Location: Cleveland, GA | i am not going to futurity him.. i have just started him on barrels this year.. he is slow loping the pattern and thats where i had planned to keep him till i felt he was ready for some speed, but maybe i should keep him off the barrels at all until next year .. i dont want him to associate the barrels with pain.. already have a horse that did and it took me a year to straighten that out.. dont wont to go there again.. |
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Location: Here | I would make sure that he isn't fusing..... I would opt for a set of xrays so you know exactly where you are at. |
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Fuzzy Navel
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Location: Cleveland, GA | Originally written by SG. on 2004-04-12 4:20 PM I would make sure that he isn't fusing..... I would opt for a set of xrays so you know exactly where you are at. |
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Location: Here | not always.... Then can start early.... so I would opt for the xrays and then you know and if he is fusing then you know what you are dealing with. |
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