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Miss ERJ
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2004-04-13 9:25 AM
Subject: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots



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My horse is "hitting" (her shoes together) when she long-trots.  I can't figure out why??  Her feet aren't that long and her angles look good.  Does anyone have any suggestions for me?

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WHO10
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2004-04-13 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots



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Chat with your farrier. He or she should be able to determine the problem and fix it!
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DoubleUFarms
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2004-04-13 9:52 AM
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Talk with a good farrier.  It's a possibility that she may need squared off in the back.
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Miss ERJ
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2004-04-13 9:54 AM
Subject: RE: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots



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I do have a good farrier.  He is also very open-minded and easy to talk to.  He is keeping her sound (she has a club-foot).  I was just hoping for some in-sight on reasons she might be doing this.  I hate to sound stupid when I talk to him.  Thanks - keep your advice coming.
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kris
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2004-04-13 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots




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I agree with everyone....talk to a good farrier, talk to a few to get different opinions...but for the meantime, put some bell boots on to keep from injuries. It could be that she just over reaches or over extends herself at a trot...some horses do that.  Try collecting her when you trot her.

Does she do this at a walk?  Walk her in a straight line and see if her back feet step into or over her front foot prints.  If it's way over, this might be the problem, but it might be natural for her to do that.  If she steps into her foot prints it's good and means that this might be a matter of collection.

Did she just start or has she always done this?

But really, I would keep a pair of bell boots on until you figure it out...no need for more problems or a thrown shoe....GOOD LUCK!!!



Edited by kris 2004-04-13 10:35 AM
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DoubleUFarms
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2004-04-13 10:30 AM
Subject: RE: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots



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Originally written by kris on 2004-04-13 11:26 AM

I agree with everyone....talk to a good farrier, talk to a few to get different opinions...but for the meantime, put some bell boots on to keep from injuries. It could be that she just over steps..some horses do that. Did she just start or has she always done this? But really, I would keep a pair of bell boots on until you figure it out...no need for more problems or a thrown shoe....GOOD LUCK!!!
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Ridafatappy
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2004-04-13 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots



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Absolutely talk with your shoer about what your horse is doing. Not supposed to do this, the front feet aren't getting out of the way of the back feet. If he/she is taking care of the club feet correctly, that's cool, the back can be dubbed a little. You can always get a second opinion from another shoer and if your present shoer gets honked off that you got a second opinion, then, oh well. Been there and done that.
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Pam Cantwell
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2004-04-13 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots



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JMHO here, certainly not an expert...I've always been told that dubbing off the back feet makes forging worse plus you may lose some stride. You are supposed to pull back the toes on the front a little to get them to break over quicker and get out of the way.
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Ridafatappy
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2004-04-13 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots



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I understand and agree- however, there is also the issue of the club footed-ness. 
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Tx3turns
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2004-04-13 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots



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Where is that Farrierlady? Just like a farrier, never around when ya need em!  Her opinion would be appreciated I'm sure.
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carlos
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2004-04-13 11:23 AM
Subject: RE: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots


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Well you would want to bring your horses breakover back on her front feet, it shouldn't matter if she's clubby or not.  If your farrier is uncomfortable with this than you may have to shorten her stride from the back which I don't ever like to do.
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Farrierlady
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2004-04-13 2:07 PM
Subject: RE: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots


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Originally written by Tx3turns on 2004-04-13 11:10 AM

Where is that Farrierlady? Just like a farrier, never around when ya need em!  Her opinion would be appreciated I'm sure.

LOL that's a good one!  I actually had to do some work lately...

The posters that stated that the fronts need to have the breakover addressed are correct.  You want the front feet to leave the ground fast and "get out of the way".  On the back feet your farrier would want to place the shoe slightly behind the toe and get more heel support behind and do not rasp the hoof wall to the shoe.  Instead of rasping it to the end of the shoe, he/she can dub it slightly downward to take off the sharp edge of the hoof wall.

Since I do not know what type of shoes your farrier uses, you might want to ask him/her if they have access and have used any NB shoes for the fronts.  This will address the breakover issue. 

Is this something new the horse is doing?  You should also find out if the horse is underrun with long toes, a second opinion is a smart thing to do.  Without seeing your horse in person it's hard to say what needs to be changed.

Debi

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Miss ERJ
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2004-04-13 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots



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Thanks so much.  Let me explain this a little further.  My horse has about a 2 degree rotation on the front right.  Because of this she has had a history of over-reaching on the left, so basically she lives in bell boots when she's out in the pasture.

As far as her shoes go,  the ones on her fronts have what I am going to describe as a "wide" toe to protect her coffin bone. (Forgive my ignorance - I don't know what they are called.) My farrier has shortened her toes and rolled them slightly for quicker break-over.  We are not doing anything special to her back feet.  In fact, they don't grow that fast so they always are short.

She is only doing this when I really ask her to stride out and reach in a long trot.  If I let her do a little short "choppy" trot she doesn't do it.  Nor does she do it at a walk or lope.  I am trying to encourage her to reach as I don't feel like she extends herself like she "should/could" in the barrel pattern.

 



Edited by Miss ERJ 2004-04-13 2:27 PM
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Miss ERJ
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2004-04-13 3:35 PM
Subject: RE: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots



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Hey Farrierlady - where are you?  I answered you back...
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Tx3turns
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2004-04-13 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots



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Just curious, how is your horse built? I mean long or short bodied, long or avg. legged? Sometimes just plain ol conformation has alot to do with it. Knowing that too might help for suggestions.

Ya ya, Farrierlady, where have we heard that one...had to work! LOL!!!(JK hope ya know)

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Ridafatappy
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2004-04-13 5:36 PM
Subject: RE: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots



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It's that time of year, everybody's wanting to ride and the farriers are swamped!  My husband is anyway (thank God!)
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OregonBR
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2004-04-13 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots


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If she is forging on her non-club foot...is your shoer trying to match her feet or is s/he leaving that one at a lower angle.  That may be the problem.

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Miss ERJ
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2004-04-13 7:40 PM
Subject: RE: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots



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Tx3turns - To answer your question...she is very "race-horse-looking".  She is Easy Jet x (Zevi x Bugs Alive) if that helps.  She does have kind of long gangly legs.  She is just now 6.  Her momma grew a lot during her 6 year old year so I wonder if she is having a growth spurt.  She has always hit a little but here lately it seems worse.

OregonBR - Both of her front feet are set at 54 degrees.  She is hitting with both feet, but only at a long trot. 

I just rode her and she didn't hit one time at a lope or a sprint.  Even when she popped her leads to jump sideways at a dirt pile!

 

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RockinH
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2004-04-13 7:46 PM
Subject: RE: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots



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Originally written by DoubleUFarms on 2004-04-13 9:52 AM

Talk with a good farrier.  It's a possibility that she may need squared off in the back.

 

Ditto, she may need her fronts and/or rear squared-off.  Pretty common.

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Miss ERJ
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2004-04-13 8:01 PM
Subject: RE: My horse is "hitting" when she long-trots



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Her fronts are squared off slightly.
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