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RE: Roaning at 3?

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jetgetset
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2004-04-15 6:03 PM
Subject: Roaning at 3?


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Has anyone ever had a horse not roan out untill they were older? Most every roan we have or know of was a roan after shedding out the baby fur..

My High Brow Hickory colt was a solid sorrel untill he was 2. Last year he had a little bit of white hair around his flanks, belly, not much and you really needed to look to see it. This year, you can tell from a good distance that he is "roany" all over his body. Bad me I have not been out doing much with them and was out there today looking at them from oh about 600 feet and saw all this "white dusting" thought what in the hell did he get into went out to check and by golly its all white hair.  His mother was a Roan overo..

Whats going on with him?

 

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Leo
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2004-04-15 6:08 PM
Subject: RE: Roaning at 3?



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I've got the same thing going on right now.  My horse was born a solid chestnut and at about age 3 started 'roaning out' now as a 5 year old, he's almost a full blown roan!  His momma was a bay and his daddy was a liver and white app (he was born solid?)  Who knows at the rate mine is going he'll be white by the time he's 10!
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cindyt
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2004-04-15 6:09 PM
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I haa 5 yr old brown mare, and now has roan hairs covering her flanks and belly,,,,,,,hummm,,,and she is bred to foal anytime to a red roan stud,,,,,YEE HAW, now watch I will get a sorrel,,,,LOL  Doesn't matter, I want healthy and 4 legs and 2 eyes and 2 ears!  1 tail is a plus!  I tell ya one thing, I won't change her papers again, when I bought her at 3 she had a white little comma on her nose, and noted it to AQHA, I then had to send pictures to them, the previous owners had to sign a paper saying she was the horse I bought, and now I have these generic looking AQHA papers that look like paint horse papers,,,,UGH, that is what I get for being honest!
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dianeguinn
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2004-04-15 6:16 PM
Subject: RE: Roaning at 3?



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Originally written by Leo on 2004-04-15 6:08 PM

I've got the same thing going on right now.  My horse was born a solid chestnut and at about age 3 started 'roaning out' now as a 5 year old, he's almost a full blown roan!  His momma was a bay and his daddy was a liver and white app (he was born solid?)  Who knows at the rate mine is going he'll be white by the time he's 10!

I had a friend who had an App gelding that was born the prettiest sorrel with a blaze and stockings that you've ever seen...he started doing the same thing as you described and by the time he was 15 he was white with a few little red spots....I think Apps are more likely to turn solid white than QH...but I have a dark dapple gray right now that was black till he was 3 and I figure by 10 he will really be light....

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OregonBR
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2004-04-15 6:45 PM
Subject: RE: Roaning at 3?


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Gray horses are born solid color (chestnut, black, bay etc...) and get more white hairs through their coat each year.  Appys can color out as they get older.  But, I've never seen a solid QH roan out as they got older.  hmmmm 
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BarOFarm
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2004-04-15 7:01 PM
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I have one.  She is now 6 and getting more and more white hairs.  Born a solid sorrel with blaze and three stockings.  Got a few white hairs her yearling year, and then a few more the next year.  At three wham, major roan patch, and white at the tail head.  Now, she has roan patches that go from her shoulder all the way back.  Not really roan, but lots of white strewn in and it concentrates around the flank. 

Beautiful mare, but I am not fond of roans.  guess I will have time to let it grow on me as it grows on her! 

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Prehistoric
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2004-04-15 8:51 PM
Subject: RE: Roaning at 3?


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According to Ed North's book "Breeding for Color" some of the color patterns described above may be Rabicano.  A Rabicano has a patter of white hairs mainly in the flanks and the base of the tail.  It can be any base color.  We have a four year old by Rare Jet Extremes who is a sorrel Rabicano.  I tried to register him as roan but AQHA won't register a horse as roan unless his sire or dam is registered as roan.  He has gotten more white each year and has a roan "spot" on his hip.

As far as breeding a (true) roan to another (true) roan, if the colt gets two dominant genes for roan, it is lethal and the pregnancy will terminate before the colt is born.  My college genetics tells me that you could lose 25% of your pregnancies if you breed two roans.

Rare Jet Extremes is a Rabicano and lots of his colts have the white hair scattered in their coat, white at the tail head and roan spots on a hip or shoulder.  They're also fast and trainable!

 

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