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Location: South MS | I feed Total Equine to all my horses, I love the feed...
However, one of my horses is a bad bleeder. After speaking with someone who works with racehorses and several other friends with bleeders - I have been thinking of changing him to a simple diet of oats and grass/alfalfa only to take out some of the processed ingredients to see if that helps with the bleeding.
I was curious as to what everyone is feeding their bleeder and if changing their diet helped
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Location: South TEXAS | i would like to know as well |
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Location: mn | I am very interested in this as well. I have 2 bleeders, and I have changed their diets over the winter, more due to an ulcer issue for one of them. I have slowly weened them off of processed grains, and they are mainly on an all forage diet, and I'm also trying out Renew Gold. I feel they are benefiting from the change in their diets, especially my ulcer prone gelding. But I've wondered if there could be any impact on bleeding due to a change in diet. I haven't run them this winter since pulling them off processed feed, but I'll be curious to see this spring if there's any difference. |
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Location: South MS | I was told by my racetrack acquaintance that going to a simply diet helps to reduce allergens that could be causing inflammation and in turn that inflammation/irritation could be causing bleeding (if bleeding is allergy related) or increasing % that the horse bleds
I am almost ready to just go to steamed oats/grass/hay/alfalfa diet and see what happens
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| What are you feeding now? I know my bleeder does a lot better on grass hay than she does alfalfa, I would also suggest finding a supplement high in antioxidants to help with inflammation (if you think it is allergen based) I like Lung Aid from choiceofchamps.com you can PM me if you want more info on supplements.
The thing that helps mine the most is grass hay, Lung Aid, and keeping the dust down. I try to keep her in well ventilated areas ( I stay clear of box stalls if at all possible, if not possible I clean them twice a day and wet down shavings). I do not feed in the trailer and for bedding in the trailer I use wood pellets instead of shavings. I also give her pred and albuterol when I run her, Lasix sometimes.
Edited by Rope-N-Run 2014-01-30 7:20 PM
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| I have been using a centurion Transpirator. It is very helpful for bleeders. Would love to chat with anyone interested. |
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| Lmichaels - 2014-01-30 5:10 PM I was told by my racetrack acquaintance that going to a simply diet helps to reduce allergens that could be causing inflammation and in turn that inflammation/irritation could be causing bleeding (if bleeding is allergy related) or increasing % that the horse bleds
I am almost ready to just go to steamed oats/grass/hay/alfalfa diet and see what happens
This is very correct. My worst bleeder has very severe allergies with no outward symptoms. None. What was found upon scope was severe inflammation in the trachea and airways. No infection or anything was present. So, I had both food and environment allergy blood tests done. I changed her diet completely thereafter based on the results. She was allergic to a lot of ingredients in processed grains including oats, rice bran and molasses. So, she ended up eating rolled barley mixed with flax seed oil and her vitamin/mineral supplements. It made a huge difference in the inflammation in her airways and stopped bleeding through 5cc's of lasix. I was able to continue to run her whereas at one point, I thought I would have to stop. She is retired now at 19. But won me a lot! |
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Location: Cecil, Pa | That is actually true I just read that in my nutrition book I bought from Dr. Getty and it was amazing the information and how inlammatory ingredients creates a bleeder moreless... Maybe buy the book it is on sale Dr Getty Nutrition google it. |
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Location: South MS | barrelracinbroke - 2014-01-30 10:24 PM Lmichaels - 2014-01-30 5:10 PM I was told by my racetrack acquaintance that going to a simply diet helps to reduce allergens that could be causing inflammation and in turn that inflammation/irritation could be causing bleeding (if bleeding is allergy related) or increasing % that the horse bleds
I am almost ready to just go to steamed oats/grass/hay/alfalfa diet and see what happens
This is very correct. My worst bleeder has very severe allergies with no outward symptoms. None. What was found upon scope was severe inflammation in the trachea and airways. No infection or anything was present. So, I had both food and environment allergy blood tests done. I changed her diet completely thereafter based on the results. She was allergic to a lot of ingredients in processed grains including oats, rice bran and molasses. So, she ended up eating rolled barley mixed with flax seed oil and her vitamin/mineral supplements. It made a huge difference in the inflammation in her airways and stopped bleeding through 5cc's of lasix. I was able to continue to run her whereas at one point, I thought I would have to stop. She is retired now at 19. But won me a lot!
Where did you get your test done?
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| Simple is better! Rolled barley, steamed oats and alfalfa, with Bleed Block. Never turned out on a round bale and invested in a Hay Gain hay steamer. Hasn't bled since. |
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Location: Georgia | I highly suggest Lung Aid.. I had similar issues with a horse of mine. He was so bad i contemplated just retiring him. I was at a loss as to what to do to help him. I ran accross Lung Aid on this site and tried it as a last ditch effort. It worked really well. I was able to take him off all meds he was on to treat the allergy / heave symptoms he was having... . He was getting sick. As with anything else it depends on what exactly is the problem... wether it be allergies, eiph or whatever.. But i do know the product works Which is why i became a distributor so i could get a discount on what i buy. Now i use the Ulser shield, Super joint and lung aid on all of mine. Ive had clients use Lung Aid to help horses get over bad colds too. Its great to use as an immune builer and respiatory support especially for a horses on the road. If your interested in trying it use coupon code "cockk" for 10 % off and FREE SHIPPING in promo section at www.choiceofchamps.com
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