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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | What are your experiences with them? I'd never heard of them until I saw a post about them here, but I have an appointment (per referral from my regular vet) next Wednesday for one of my horses. Hopefully just dealing with some arthritis and subsequent soreness from it, but that's why we're going. Just curious what to expect. I'm kinda excited to go and see what it's all about, plus see the vets where we're going. My horse and I got to know them very well over the past year for something else--we made 15 trips there over 7 months, so they know us well, and my horse was a very well liked patient by the surgeons. |
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Location: Kansas | I used it on Chance back in May and felt like we got more answers from it than from all the other lameness exams he'd had. Most folks thought his hocks & stifles were sore or maybe something else but the LL isolated it to his feet (of course). While I was hoping for a simpler fix, at least we had a graphical representation of what was hurting and how much it improved with each nerve block. It was a lot faster than going to a closer vet, fixing one thing and then going back to check for soreness somewhere else.
We spent probably 3 hours there while he went back & forth between Chance and another horse while their blocks took effect, and I thought my bill was very reasonable. I'd like to take him back and recheck but haven't had the time or funds to make a 5+ hour road trip this summer. Hopefully your experience is good as well. |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | findintimetoride - 2014-08-15 10:50 AM
What vet are you going to for this? I have been curious about it too.
We're going to Oklahoma State. I am fairly certain my apt is with either Dr Schoonover or Dr Whitfield, my horse has seen them before. My vet actually called and made the appointment for me, so I'm not sure. |
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Location: Muskogee, OK | RockinGR - 2014-08-15 10:54 AM findintimetoride - 2014-08-15 10:50 AM What vet are you going to for this? I have been curious about it too. We're going to Oklahoma State. I am fairly certain my apt is with either Dr Schoonover or Dr Whitfield, my horse has seen them before. My vet actually called and made the appointment for me, so I'm not sure.
I'm a vet student at OSU and have worked a bunch with both Dr. Schoonover and Dr. Whitfield, they are great! When are you coming? We've actually had Dr. Keegan here the past few weeks and he is the one who invented the lameness locator...It has been very interesting getting to work up lamenesses with the guy that developed it.
As far as the lameness locator---simply put it is awesome. Definitely not a replacement for visual lameness exams but it definitely enhances them. It is super helpful to be able to put a number to a degree of lameness rather than just subjectively say---you can tell how much blocks have improved the horse, and overall just localize a lameness better. It also is very helpful when trying to decide compensatory lameness vs. a true lameness.. I have learned so much more about lameness and common patterns by utilizing the lameness locator. Overall I definitely recommend it and I think you'll be happy with what you get from it! |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | barrelracingchick16 - 2014-08-15 11:22 AM
RockinGR - 2014-08-15 10:54 AM findintimetoride - 2014-08-15 10:50 AM What vet are you going to for this? I have been curious about it too. We're going to Oklahoma State. I am fairly certain my apt is with either Dr Schoonover or Dr Whitfield, my horse has seen them before. My vet actually called and made the appointment for me, so I'm not sure.
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   As far as the lameness locator---simply put it is awesome. Definitely not a replacement for visual lameness exams but it definitely enhances them. It is super helpful to be able to put a number to a degree of lameness rather than just subjectively say---you can tell how much blocks have improved the horse, and overall just localize a lameness better. It also is very helpful when trying to decide compensatory lameness vs. a true lameness.. I have learned so much more about lameness and common patterns by utilizing the lameness locator. Overall I definitely recommend it and I think you'll be happy with what you get from it!
We will be there Wednesday morning. That's really cool that Dr Keegan is there (hopefully he still will be). |
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Location: mi | They used it on my gelding. He looked very cute with the Hat on. :) But really it was awesome because I took him with the idea that I was pretty sure he was not "lame" in the traditional sense but taht something was wrong as he was not acting right under saddle. The LL confirmed both what my eyes and the vets eyes were seeing. Nothing off at all. So if nothing else it confirmed what we both had been thinking. |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | Liana Deweese told me about it 2 years or more ago as I was having sublte and varying lameness issues with no evidence to support the lameness ie xray clean, U/S clean ect, he wasnt a grade one even at times. It was amazing, and I think after my experience several others on here went- like Diane Guinn and RWJ and Riley among others. I have used three vets with the LL and all have strong points on the tool and the exam.
I love the LL very much!! 
I will be returning soon for a follow up on one that we injected to see if it helped or not since he is still having a performance refusal:( |
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| I am fortunate that I live in Mid MO and get to use Dr Keegan for all my lameness locator visits. It found an issue with my one horse several years ago that no other vet could find. Great tool. |
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Location: Sperry, OK | TurnLane - 2014-08-15 1:26 PM Liana Deweese told me about it 2 years or more ago as I was having sublte and varying lameness issues with no evidence to support the lameness ie xray clean, U/S clean ect, he wasnt a grade one even at times. It was amazing, and I think after my experience several others on here went- like Diane Guinn and RWJ and Riley among others. I have used three vets with the LL and all have strong points on the tool and the exam.
I love the LL very much!!
I will be returning soon for a follow up on one that we injected to see if it helped or not since he is still having a performance refusal:(
Me, me.. you left me out... It is what isolated Hero's torn suspensory.. as he really wasn't lame at all. |
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Location: Texas | barrelracingchick16 - 2014-08-15 11:22 AM
RockinGR - 2014-08-15 10:54 AM findintimetoride - 2014-08-15 10:50 AM What vet are you going to for this? I have been curious about it too. We're going to Oklahoma State. I am fairly certain my apt is with either Dr Schoonover or Dr Whitfield, my horse has seen them before. My vet actually called and made the appointment for me, so I'm not sure.
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   As far as the lameness locator---simply put it is awesome. Definitely not a replacement for visual lameness exams but it definitely enhances them. It is super helpful to be able to put a number to a degree of lameness rather than just subjectively say---you can tell how much blocks have improved the horse, and overall just localize a lameness better. It also is very helpful when trying to decide compensatory lameness vs. a true lameness.. I have learned so much more about lameness and common patterns by utilizing the lameness locator. Overall I definitely recommend it and I think you'll be happy with what you get from it!
My vet and I have been talking about them! We feel they are really good for the subtle lameness problems, like the ones that are grade 2 and below. He said with those types of lamenesses it's hard enough to see them much less tell if your blocks are working if its so subtle to begin with. the lameness locator like you said gives a numerical value and is consistent…great for the really confusing lamenesses. |
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