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Location: TN | My gelding is a hog for feed, hay, grass, etc. but in the last month he has not been going after his feed like normal. At first I worried he could have sand/dirt in his gut so I started back feeding soaked beet pulp like I did in the winter, but no change in his eating habits. I also gave him 3 doses of probios to make sure his gut was working well because his crap was a little more watery (not very dry).
His feed is a 14% protein, 8% fat, 25% NSC. He looks great, but I'm thinking the starch in the feed and being hauled every weekend may have caused ulcers.
He's slick and fat and working just like always. The only sign is that he isn't always finishing his feed and if feed and hay are in front of him he'll eat a little feed and then eat hay. He gets grain in the evenings and is turned out with hay (and some grass) all through day and night. Or do you think he could have just decided he doesn't like this feed anymore? It's just very unlike him.
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Location: NC | KatieMac88 - 2015-06-07 1:17 PM
My gelding is a hog for feed, hay, grass, etc. but in the last month he has not been going after his feed like normal. At first I worried he could have sand/dirt in his gut so I started back feeding soaked beet pulp like I did in the winter, but no change in his eating habits. I also gave him 3 doses of probios to make sure his gut was working well because his crap was a little more watery (not very dry).
His feed is a 14% protein, 8% fat, 25% NSC. He looks great, but I'm thinking the starch in the feed and being hauled every weekend may have caused ulcers.
He's slick and fat and working just like always. The only sign is that he isn't always finishing his feed and if feed and hay are in front of him he'll eat a little feed and then eat hay. He gets grain in the evenings and is turned out with hay (and some grass) all through day and night. Or do you think he could have just decided he doesn't like this feed anymore? It's just very unlike him.
I would get some THE GastroPLUS and do the 32 day course to start with. I got a horse in that was on Strategy and pretty thin. Switched him to a locally milled Senior feed with 10% fat, 14% fiber and 21% NSC with as much hay as he wants and got up with Krystal (Wyoming barrel racer) and put him on the GastroPLUS. He turned around completely. Attitude and weight. Looks amazing now.
I would also do a round of SandClear or Metamucil. I use plain Walmart brand metamucil powder. 1 cup per horse per day for a week every month. It will purge the sand.
I also feed Forco to my main gelding. He can get loose on the road and the Forco regularly has helped. I also add ProBios to his feed the day before and day of a one day show just for added support. For a weekend show I plan on feeding the Probios every day if needed.
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You might try watching the above video about ulcers by Dr Depaulo and checking those points on your horse. This has really helped me monitor my horses for ulcers and evaluate how much omeprazole they need, and whether they're responding like they should... |
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Location: TN | I'm thinking of switching his feed to a low starch feed with 12% CP, 6% Fat, 20% Fiber, and 13% NSC but ideally I'd like for it to have more fat. |
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Location: TN | hlynn - 2015-06-07 12:24 PM KatieMac88 - 2015-06-07 1:17 PM My gelding is a hog for feed, hay, grass, etc. but in the last month he has not been going after his feed like normal. At first I worried he could have sand/dirt in his gut so I started back feeding soaked beet pulp like I did in the winter, but no change in his eating habits. I also gave him 3 doses of probios to make sure his gut was working well because his crap was a little more watery (not very dry).
His feed is a 14% protein, 8% fat, 25% NSC. He looks great, but I'm thinking the starch in the feed and being hauled every weekend may have caused ulcers.
He's slick and fat and working just like always. The only sign is that he isn't always finishing his feed and if feed and hay are in front of him he'll eat a little feed and then eat hay. He gets grain in the evenings and is turned out with hay (and some grass) all through day and night. Or do you think he could have just decided he doesn't like this feed anymore? It's just very unlike him. I would get some THE GastroPLUS and do the 32 day course to start with. I got a horse in that was on Strategy and pretty thin. Switched him to a locally milled Senior feed with 10% fat, 14% fiber and 21% NSC with as much hay as he wants and got up with Krystal (Wyoming barrel racer ) and put him on the GastroPLUS. He turned around completely. Attitude and weight. Looks amazing now. I would also do a round of SandClear or Metamucil. I use plain Walmart brand metamucil powder. 1 cup per horse per day for a week every month. It will purge the sand. I also feed Forco to my main gelding. He can get loose on the road and the Forco regularly has helped. I also add ProBios to his feed the day before and day of a one day show just for added support. For a weekend show I plan on feeding the Probios every day if needed.
Great advice! I'll check out GastroPlus. I hadn't thought about using metamucil - do you put it in their feed? |
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Location: TN | barrel_racing_angel - 2015-06-07 12:25 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr05hMmLCY4
You might try watching the above video about ulcers by Dr Depaulo and checking those points on your horse. This has really helped me monitor my horses for ulcers and evaluate how much omeprazole they need, and whether they're responding like they should...
Great video! Thanks! I'll go palpate those points and see how he reacts. |
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Location: NC | KatieMac88 - 2015-06-07 1:28 PM
hlynn - 2015-06-07 12:24 PM KatieMac88 - 2015-06-07 1:17 PM My gelding is a hog for feed, hay, grass, etc. but in the last month he has not been going after his feed like normal. At first I worried he could have sand/dirt in his gut so I started back feeding soaked beet pulp like I did in the winter, but no change in his eating habits. I also gave him 3 doses of probios to make sure his gut was working well because his crap was a little more watery (not very dry).
His feed is a 14% protein, 8% fat, 25% NSC. He looks great, but I'm thinking the starch in the feed and being hauled every weekend may have caused ulcers.
He's slick and fat and working just like always. The only sign is that he isn't always finishing his feed and if feed and hay are in front of him he'll eat a little feed and then eat hay. He gets grain in the evenings and is turned out with hay (and some grass) all through day and night. Or do you think he could have just decided he doesn't like this feed anymore? It's just very unlike him. I would get some THE GastroPLUS and do the 32 day course to start with. I got a horse in that was on Strategy and pretty thin. Switched him to a locally milled Senior feed with 10% fat, 14% fiber and 21% NSC with as much hay as he wants and got up with Krystal (Wyoming barrel racer ) and put him on the GastroPLUS. He turned around completely. Attitude and weight. Looks amazing now. I would also do a round of SandClear or Metamucil. I use plain Walmart brand metamucil powder. 1 cup per horse per day for a week every month. It will purge the sand. I also feed Forco to my main gelding. He can get loose on the road and the Forco regularly has helped. I also add ProBios to his feed the day before and day of a one day show just for added support. For a weekend show I plan on feeding the Probios every day if needed.
Yes. I put the powder right in the feed and douse it with some aloe Vera juice to make it stick. I use aloe Vera juice on their feed just to help the powder THE supplements to stick. It's not really for any real benefits. Lol. It's pretty cheap so I like to use it instead of water when I can. |
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Location: Bama | KatieMac88 - 2015-06-07 12:25 PM
I'm thinking of switching his feed to a low starch feed with 12% CP, 6% Fat, 20% Fiber, and 13% NSC but ideally I'd like for it to have more fat.
You could always add oil and/or rice bran. That's what I've been doing because I'm not happy with 5% fat in the feed I'm using. |
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| You could try FORCO too ! I have a mare exactly like your gelding.. But she was so bad.. Wouldn't badly way feed at all but she'd eat beet pulp . I bought some FORCO & fed it to her in the beet pulp , since she wouldn't eat the feed & just one dose of FORCO that horse started cleaning up everything ! Beet pulp AND feed ... Which she hadn't done in a month or so. I was shocked .. I started FORCO Friday night & every since she has been eating great ! I was completely amazed. You may look into it ;) her feed is ultium .. 11.7 protein / 12.4 fat |
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Location: TN | Fancy Lass - 2015-06-07 3:34 PM You could try FORCO too ! I have a mare exactly like your gelding.. But she was so bad.. Wouldn't badly way feed at all but she'd eat beet pulp . I bought some FORCO & fed it to her in the beet pulp , since she wouldn't eat the feed & just one dose of FORCO that horse started cleaning up everything ! Beet pulp AND feed ... Which she hadn't done in a month or so. I was shocked .. I started FORCO Friday night & every since she has been eating great ! I was completely amazed. You may look into it ;) her feed is ultium .. 11.7 protein / 12.4 fat
Ok thank you, I'll have to try that! He's the same way as your horse. He'll eat the beat pulp rather than the feed. |
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Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | KatieMac88 - 2015-06-07 12:25 PM
I'm thinking of switching his feed to a low starch feed with 12% CP, 6% Fat, 20% Fiber, and 13% NSC but ideally I'd like for it to have more fat.
You should try Renew Gold. It has 15% fat and only 10%NSC. It's awesome!! |
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