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Location: TEXAS | He didn't leave hard and straight from the 1st. Do I just need to work on the finish?https://youtu.be/bWEZhbcyYHw |
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Location: Somewhere around here | To me it seems like you might actually be asking for to much turn on the back side of the 1st so he has to take that extra stride and stepping off a little to keep himself from knocking into the barrel. Of course, I'm not riding your horse and a video can only show so much but that's what I see.
A drill you could do is setting up the barrels in a cloverleaf and trot from the 1st to the third; trot straight then walk around the barrel. Same with a lope; lope the straight then trot or walk around the barrel. Lisa Lockhart has a drill video of this on TrainingBarrelHorses.com |
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| It's hard to tell on my phone, but it looks like you sit down a little over half way to 1st and that causes the dust poof since he rated. That is where he commits to turn. That causes you to have a really big pocket and you slice the top. That's why you lose momentum. If you draw it out on paper, the shape of your turn on 1st should be a perfect tear drop with the point being the line in between 1st and 2nd. On an average horse that pocket is 10'-12'. That next stride is 5'-7' from the barrel. The backside is 3'-4' and when you come out next to the barrel is roughly 2'. I'd guess your pocket to be about 20' with that next stride being about 3', the backside is more like 8' and next to the barrel is about 4'. Instead of running out at that last point next to the barrel, he isn't running until he's past it and on the way to 2nd. Hopefully that makes sense? |
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Zeal Queen
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Location: TEXAS | SKM - 2016-03-30 1:55 PM It's hard to tell on my phone, but it looks like you sit down a little over half way to 1st and that causes the dust poof since he rated. That is where he commits to turn. That causes you to have a really big pocket and you slice the top. That's why you lose momentum. If you draw it out on paper, the shape of your turn on 1st should be a perfect tear drop with the point being the line in between 1st and 2nd. On an average horse that pocket is 10'-12'. That next stride is 5'-7' from the barrel. The backside is 3'-4' and when you come out next to the barrel is roughly 2'. I'd guess your pocket to be about 20' with that next stride being about 3', the backside is more like 8' and next to the barrel is about 4'. Instead of running out at that last point next to the barrel, he isn't running until he's past it and on the way to 2nd. Hopefully that makes sense?
Yes that does make sense. Thank you! |
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Location: TEXAS | cecollins0811 - 2016-03-30 1:36 PM To me it seems like you might actually be asking for to much turn on the back side of the 1st so he has to take that extra stride and stepping off a little to keep himself from knocking into the barrel. Of course, I'm not riding your horse and a video can only show so much but that's what I see. A drill you could do is setting up the barrels in a cloverleaf and trot from the 1st to the third; trot straight then walk around the barrel. Same with a lope; lope the straight then trot or walk around the barrel. Lisa Lockhart has a drill video of this on TrainingBarrelHorses.com
Thank you I'll look that up! |
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| I to agree with the sitting/rating too soon. The momentum is shifting to the front end, it looks like he is slicing a barrel, and he couldn't drag up a hind leg to turn and fire out. been there...done that...we all have |
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| KindaClassey - 2016-03-30 1:45 PM
I to agree with the sitting/rating too soon. The momentum is shifting to the front end, it looks like he is slicing a barrel, and he couldn't drag up a hind leg to turn and fire out. been there...done that...we all have
Yep. Slicing 1st is the biggest mistake I see people do and it seems to be the hardest to fix once it's become a habit. |
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| I bet if you moved him over to where that girl was filming before you took off he would of made it around it with enough momentum. but also go look at your film and pause it as you are coming into the turn. As soon as his shoulder is even(maybe a little before) with the barrel he starts to turn, push him further into the turn, until your knee is inline with the barrel. |
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| FlyingJT - 2016-03-30 3:05 PM
I bet if you moved him over to where that girl was filming before you took off he would of made it around it with enough momentum. but also go look at your film and pause it as you are coming into the turn. As soon as his shoulder is even(maybe a little before) with the barrel he starts to turn, push him further into the turn, until your knee is inline with the barrel.
Exactly. You're coming in too straight. You need to be about twelve foot from the barrel when you're exactly between first and second, then you want his hip 3-4' off the barrel all the way in. Get your measuring tape out and mark the points you need his HIP to be. Then figure out how to ride that butt all the way around. The trick is outside rein. |
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Location: TEXAS | Thanks so much everyone. Yall have been a big help. I've struggled with my approach bc I'm not use to or comfortable with going left first. |
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Location: TEXAS | classicpotatochip - 2016-03-30 3:20 PM
FlyingJT - 2016-03-30 3:05 PM
I bet if you moved him over to where that girl was filming before you took off he would of made it around it with enough momentum. but also go look at your film and pause it as you are coming into the turn. As soon as his shoulder is even(maybe a little before) with the barrel he starts to turn, push him further into the turn, until your knee is inline with the barrel.
Exactly. You're coming in too straight. You need to be about twelve foot from the barrel when you're exactly between first and second, then you want his hip 3-4' off the barrel all the way in. Get your measuring tape out and mark the points you need his HIP to be. Then figure out how to ride that butt all the way around. The trick is outside rein.
What do you mean the trick is the outside rein?
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