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WetSaddleBlankets
Reg. Nov 2010
Posted 2017-11-07 8:35 PM
Subject: foot problems.. shoe job critique


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I have a mare that has always been ran bare foot and done really well. like 1d, pro rodeo, circuit finals well. She was always a little sensitive on rocks but not enough to be a concern. This year it all fell apart. She started being off on her left front in a circle on a lunge line on a hard surface and sand. She is better on grass. I put shoes and pads on her and it did not help one bit. We took xrays and everything looks normal. The lateral view is normal and other views of the navicular bone, coffin joint and pastern ect... look great. Her angle on X rays is 54 deg. The angle on the outside hoof is almost 58. Both front feet were always the same size and shape. Now the left is smaller then the right and is more up right. Her sole depth is 13 mm. She is sensitive to the hoof tester all over the foot. She was blocked with the lowest hoof block, the palmar digital block (pd block) and went 90 percent sound. We injected her coffin joints and that did not help.  Today my farrier was going to put bar shoes on when sadly what she had didnt fit. This was a last minute idea. So instead she put on a shoe backwards with a soft pad for heel support. She is still off after these were put on. My next step is an MRI but I have so many vet bills this year I am trying to hold off. Has anyone else experienced this? Here is a picture of todays shoe job..

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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2017-11-07 8:58 PM
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I’m dealing with a bad shoeing job . If the coffin joint injection did not help, get your vet to do the navicular bursa. I would get her on something such as Herbal Blend for inflamation and Optimum Flex plus for the joints. I was also told by a good lameness vet to give Adequan and Legend once a month. I give one at the first of the month and one at the end of the month. Her foot looks too short and angle does not look correct. I would get a good lameness vet to X-ray foot and get the correct angle to make everything is aligned correctly

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Turnburnsis
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2017-11-08 1:32 AM
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my horses are barefoot also. My opinion is if she was fine before barefoot and not now. Something definitely going on. I know that MRI are high and can be a pain to get insurance to pay sometimes but do the MRI and be done with it. That will answer so many questions. My friend had a horse with a deep digital tear(only an mri could show it) and kept putting off the mri for a year because they said try this and that and different shoeings and so forth. Did mri and she had to stay off a year. If she had done it the first time around it would have saved her money and time! So if you can tho I know not everyone can do the MRI do it! Good luck!
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Meep.Meep
Reg. Jun 2017
Posted 2017-11-08 6:46 AM
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I am guessing your issue is soft tissue. I don't like to critique shoe jobs but will just say this, I do not like the "backwards shoe" deal. And that foot looks much too short for my liking. Good luck and hope you find your answer!
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Ohiobarrelracer
Reg. Feb 2017
Posted 2017-11-08 7:31 AM
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Meep.Meep - 2017-11-08 7:46 AM I am guessing your issue is soft tissue. I don't like to critique shoe jobs but will just say this, I do not like the "backwards shoe" deal. And that foot looks much too short for my liking. Good luck and hope you find your answer!

Completely agree with this...   
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Mainer-racer
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2017-11-08 7:55 AM
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Turnburnsis - 2017-11-08 2:32 AM my horses are barefoot also. My opinion is if she was fine before barefoot and not now. Something definitely going on. I know that MRI are high and can be a pain to get insurance to pay sometimes but do the MRI and be done with it. That will answer so many questions. My friend had a horse with a deep digital tear(only an mri could show it) and kept putting off the mri for a year because they said try this and that and different shoeings and so forth. Did mri and she had to stay off a year. If she had done it the first time around it would have saved her money and time! So if you can tho I know not everyone can do the MRI do it! Good luck!

Agree 100%! We couldn't figure what was wrong with my horse. Finally decided for MRI - found the digital tear. Ultra Sound, xrays never picked it up. He actually ended up having surgery, never thought he was that bad. Just got done 10 weeks of stall rest and he's moving the best I've ever seen. 
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RedHead84
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2017-11-08 8:31 AM
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I am not much for throwing sh*t against a wall to see if it sticks and I feel like maybe that's what your farrier is doing right now? I'd get the MRI and see what you're dealing with and then develop a game plan there. Good luck, I know it's tough an d frustrating!
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barrelracingchick16
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2017-11-08 10:07 AM
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At this point definitely go with the MRI, or at least start treating it as a soft tissue injury (stall rest). The history is very suspicious of a soft tissue injury within the foot.

Other option if you don't want to do the MRI- if you are anywhere near TX look up Dr. Sammy Pittman with innovative equine podiatry services out of Collinsville. My mare had a similar history, although me being a veterinarian I jumped right to an MRI (after X-rays were completely clean) because I was very suspicious of a soft tissue injury and sure enough she had a small tear within her DDF tendon within the foot. Long story short, I've worked with Dr. Pittman quite a bit throughout vet school and he has been working on her- results were almost immediate. With that said, she still needed significant stall rest to ensure healing of that tendon, but changing the mechanics of the foot to take strain off of the DDF tendon helped her tremendously. If you would like his contact info let me know.
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TheDutchMan01
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2017-11-08 12:55 PM
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Personally we've tried some "corrective" shoeing and it really never helped. I think the best thing you can do is keep their feet as close to as they are naturally. Whether that be with shoes or without. As far as the shoe job...the toe is dubbed off way too short. I would rather have them a little long than too short. I would let them go for a few weeks and let the foot grow back then jerk the shoes off. I'm not sure who trimmed them before but I would go back to that. Most of the time when there some type of injury or soreness that hoof tends to get smaller. I agree with everyone else that there's some type of internal injury.
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jake16
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2017-11-08 6:54 PM
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Well heck.lol.i can't read a thing you wrote in that light blue little font:(( good luck.the photo looks like the toe is short.to short for me.other than that ,I can't read it lol
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WetSaddleBlankets
Reg. Nov 2010
Posted 2017-11-08 7:15 PM
Subject: RE: foot problems.. shoe job critique


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jake16 - 2017-11-08 6:54 PM

Well heck.lol.i can't read a thing you wrote in that light blue little font:(( good luck.the photo looks like the toe is short.to short for me.other than that ,I can't read it lol

 I fixed it
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