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Firemanswife
Reg. May 2013
Posted 2014-02-14 9:53 AM
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When do you give it before a run and how much?
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FLITASTIC
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Posted 2014-02-14 10:10 AM
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This is just my opinion and I am not a vet, nor do I play one on TV. A lot depends on when and how much bute to give. First, what is your delivery method? Oral powder? Oral paste? IV liquid? IV only takes about an hour to work and the oral methods take about 4 hours. It also depends on what your treating. Is it an arthritis chronic type of problem or something minor to reduce swelling? As a general rule, I would use one dose the night be fore and one dose the morning of a run atleast 4 hours out. As per my vet's instructions.
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barrel_racing_angel
Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2014-02-14 10:14 AM
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I would have to agree with Flitastic :-)

I use bute before a run for 2 reasons:
1. horse has diagnosed arthritic issues or
2. preventative for body soreness that can happen from hauling/exertion

I give 2G orally (mixed with grain) the night before an event and 2G in the morning or midday, depending on when I'm going to run...I want it at least 4-6 hours before the event.

 
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PaintedPrincess
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2014-02-14 10:18 AM
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barrel_racing_angel - 2014-02-14 11:14 AM

I would have to agree with Flitastic :-)

I use bute before a run for 2 reasons:
1. horse has diagnosed arthritic issues or
2. preventative for body soreness that can happen from hauling/exertion

I give 2G orally (mixed with grain) the night before an event and 2G in the morning or midday, depending on when I'm going to run...I want it at least 4-6 hours before the event.

 

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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2014-02-14 11:36 AM
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Actually I use previcox now. I do have bute, but the previcox is easier on their system AND it won't make a horse hard in the face. SOmetimes bute over works and they can't feel the bridle.
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cbrooks
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Posted 2014-02-14 12:54 PM
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Previcox also doesn't cause ulcers as bute can.
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Douglas J Gordon
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2014-02-14 2:08 PM
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Firemanswife - 2014-02-14 9:53 AM When do you give it before a run and how much?

For the best affect of anti inflammatory it should be given about 9 hours before you run.
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Douglas J Gordon
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2014-02-14 2:10 PM
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cbrooks - 2014-02-14 12:54 PM Previcox also doesn't cause ulcers as bute can.

Only high does of Bute causes ulcers.  4 grams or more multiple days in a row cause ulcers.  Previcox will cause ulcers at high levels also.
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barrel_racing_angel
Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2014-02-14 8:38 PM
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FLITASTIC - 2014-02-14 9:36 AM Actually I use previcox now. I do have bute, but the previcox is easier on their system AND it won't make a horse hard in the face. SOmetimes bute over works and they can't feel the bridle.


Sorry, but saying that Bute makes a horse hard in the face is totally untrue.

Bute is an NSAID (non steroidal anti inflammatory), meaning that it is the equine equivalent of ibuprofen or alleve or naproxen. Does ibuprofen make anyone here's mouth numb?

 Also FWIW previcox does not work as well as bute for some issues. Depends on the horse, and the problem. I think both drugs have their place.

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CE's wrapn3
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2014-02-15 6:57 AM
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barrel_racing_angel - 2014-02-14 8:38 PM
FLITASTIC - 2014-02-14 9:36 AM Actually I use previcox now. I do have bute, but the previcox is easier on their system AND it won't make a horse hard in the face. SOmetimes bute over works and they can't feel the bridle.




Sorry, but saying that Bute makes a horse hard in the face is totally untrue.



Bute is an NSAID (non steroidal anti inflammatory), meaning that it is the equine equivalent of ibuprofen or alleve or naproxen. Does ibuprofen make anyone here's mouth numb?



 Also FWIW previcox does not work as well as bute for some issues. Depends on the horse, and the problem. I think both drugs have their place.

 It probably would it Ibuprofen was a liquid. Have you ever gotten bute on your lips or mouth? It numbs it
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barrel_racing_angel
Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2014-02-15 9:03 AM
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Alrighty then! Can't say that I have ever gotten bute in my mouth. So moving beyond the fact that bute is an NSAID, not an analgesic or nerve blocking agent...So localized loss of sensation makes zero sense...

Let's say that I accept your premise...WOW my horses (all 5) work AMAZING for having no feeling in their mouth all these years!!!!
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bigspurs
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2014-02-15 10:34 AM
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CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-15 6:57 AM

barrel_racing_angel - 2014-02-14 8:38 PM
FLITASTIC - 2014-02-14 9:36 AM Actually I use previcox now. I do have bute, but the previcox is easier on their system AND it won't make a horse hard in the face. SOmetimes bute over works and they can't feel the bridle.




Sorry, but saying that Bute makes a horse hard in the face is totally untrue.



Bute is an NSAID (non steroidal anti inflammatory), meaning that it is the equine equivalent of ibuprofen or alleve or naproxen. Does ibuprofen make anyone here's mouth numb?



 Also FWIW previcox does not work as well as bute for some issues. Depends on the horse, and the problem. I think both drugs have their place.

 It probably would it Ibuprofen was a liquid. Have you ever gotten bute on your lips or mouth? It numbs it

I have to agree- I have gotten bute on my hands and unknowingly touched the corners of my mouth and it was EXTREMELY numbing and annoying. Also, my very reknowned veterinarian told me that some horses have shown to become unresponsive in the mouth if bute is given too close to riding time. So I just don't do it.
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