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Location: Somewhere around here | I've had my ups and downs with plenty of horses that I've turned into barrel horse, I mainly had them 2-3 years max and then sold them. Never had a "problem" horse that I felt hung up on. But as I'm hoping to be in the barrel racing and training business for a long time, how do you sell a horse that can run a 4D time but would otherwise be known as a problem horse if you pushed for more? Like, how would you put that in an ad? Do you even mention it? Or do you forgo the whole idea of barrels when selling?
And for the sake of the post, let's say there's not a pain issue but more of a mental issue with the horse; or even an issue with the horse and rider together. |
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| cecollins0811 - 2017-11-28 7:35 AM I've had my ups and downs with plenty of horses that I've turned into barrel horse, I mainly had them 2-3 years max and then sold them. Never had a "problem" horse that I felt hung up on. But as I'm hoping to be in the barrel racing and training business for a long time, how do you sell a horse that can run a 4D time but would otherwise be known as a problem horse if you pushed for more? Like, how would you put that in an ad? Do you even mention it? Or do you forgo the whole idea of barrels when selling? And for the sake of the post, let's say there's not a pain issue but more of a mental issue with the horse; or even an issue with the horse and rider together.
I would disclose it and say priced accordingly
“confident safe at 4D level but when pushed gets nervous” or what ever it does |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | I wouldn't sell it as a barrel horse at all.
If you are actually a trainer and hope to do it as a job, the worst thing in the world you can have is a turd with your name on it.
I don't care if you disclose it or not.
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| Have one for sale. Didn’t train him, bought him as a head horse and found out he knew barrels (he’s bred to chase cans not cows). Won a lot of money cruising in the 4d/5d just getting comfortable with him, very different style than I’m use to.
Pushed for more and it went to sh!t. Figured out why he’s a head horse. Took care of some pain issues, still doesn’t want to work the barrels, even just high loping to hit the 5d. Works like a world champion at home.
He’s for sale as a bang up rodeo quality head horse. If someone wants to look at his papers and go “wow Barrel horse papers, have you ever ran him on the barrels?” Yes and I’ll happily show you videos of the results, he’s not for sale as a barrel horse, if you want to buy him and try to fix him as such you’re doing so eyes wide open.
If he didn’t have other competitive talents he’d be for sale as a trail horse, again with complete disclosure to a serious buyer about his issues. |
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Location: Oakdale, CA | 1DSoon - 2017-11-28 5:57 AM I wouldn't sell it as a barrel horse at all.
If you are actually a trainer and hope to do it as a job, the worst thing in the world you can have is a turd with your name on it.
I don't care if you disclose it or not.
Ditto this! |
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| I had a horse that was 4D and wouldnt move out of it. He would rear at every barrel if you asked for more speed. Sold him to a boy who roped. That horse brought home alot of money and saddles. Could you sell the horse as a trail horse? Maybe that horse just hates to run, more of a penny pusher. |
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Location: Kansas | I sold one that would break in two if an adult ran him and asked for more than 75% of full speed. He was an amazing kids horse and would high lope 4D-5D times all summer long, but if you got to the front of your saddle and asked for more, you better hold on! The first people who tried him loved him for their kids and almost 4 years later, I'm pretty sure they still have him. He was NOT happy trying to be a competitive 3d horse and I advertised him accordingly.....solid 4D horse who does not want to go any faster....NOT FOR AN AGGRESSIVE RIDER. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Don't sell him as a barrel horse. Don't even mention it. He needs a different job. Not all horses are cut out to run around three objects but are happy as can be running after a steer or trails. Find the rider that wants to do what he wants to do. Even as a barrel horse breeder, I know that not all the horses bred to do a job will want to do it. Find the job the horse likes and you will both be happy. |
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 The best bad guy on the internet
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Location: Arizona | Why does everyone think every horse can be a "trail" horse..why do people think it's so easy...have you ever ridden an excellent trail horse vs. "just a trail horse"...my biggest pet peeve!! Would you want an experienced trail horse when climbing up a mountain or a horse that's hardly ever seen an actual trail..... |
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The Advice Guru
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| LIVE2RUN - 2017-12-01 2:46 PM
Why does everyone think every horse can be a "trail" horse..why do people think it's so easy...have you ever ridden an excellent trail horse vs. "just a trail horse"...my biggest pet peeve!! Would you want an experienced trail horse when climbing up a mountain or a horse that's hardly ever seen an actual trail.....
No not all horses can be trail horses, but the majority of horses can be a trail horse versus a barrel horse.
All my colts start out as trail horses, at 3 yrs old they are going to the mountains going on goat trails, the key to a good trail horse is ensuring they are broke, and yes it is easy... if they are broke.
2 years ago my 3 yr olds were the best broke horses on the trails, first time to the mountains, and both had the greenest riders on the them as they were safe.
Any well broke horse can be a trail horse, it is all in the training. |
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| If he does a good job at 4d advertise him as that & say if you speed him up he won't work. Had a friend buy one that you could only lope to the 1st barrel on then go as fast as you want. She won a ton on this horse n the 3-4d. She loved him but don't try to go fast to the first or he'd go down the fence every time. |
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| I wouldn't sell him as a barrel horse. Sell him as a trail horse or a good broke horse. While he may not make a barrel horse he, might make a good roping, reining, cutting etc... |
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