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 Hog Tie My Mojo
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       Location: Opelousas, LA | Would you go ahead and have him gelded now or wait to see if he drops on his own and then cut him? I have never had a crypt before, hes not bad to handle but I want to get on with the program. Just hate to spend the extra money if I don't have to. |
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  Neat Freak
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | We have bought 2 and neither one ever dropped on their own. I also raised a gelding when I was a kid and never dropped either. SO 3 total and 3 were left to 2 and never dropped. I would just go ahead and geld them now. Be done with it. |
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| If they haven't dropped by 18 months they other one probably isn't going to drop... We had a crypt at the barn his hand't dropped and he was two maybe a coupe months older. Vet said he wouldn't drop and to get the surgery done. Because in the long run it'll cause pain and give him a crappy attitude(most times but not all the time). |
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 Bulls Eye
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       Location: Oklahoma | We waited till one was almost 3. He never dropped. I'd do the surgery now. Have your vet heavily sedate him and see if he can find it. We did that first and determined it was in the stomach and had to go the expensive gelding route. |
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The Advice Guru
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| From what my vet has told me is if they are a true crypt, the cord is too short for them to descend.
Never had a horse with it, but bought a donkey at an auction mart that was a crypt, paid more for the gelding then I did buying him |
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 Experienced Mouse Trapper
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   Location: North Dakota | Will the horse let you feel? Sometimes the inguanal ring is open and they ascend and descend very easily-if so-the vet can get it done the "normal" way. If not you will have to have the full blown exploratory surgery. |
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  Location: Southeastern Idaho | LMS - 2015-12-15 1:59 PM
Will the horse let you feel? Sometimes the inguanal ring is open and they ascend and descend very easily-if so-the vet can get it done the "normal" way. If not you will have to have the full blown exploratory surgery.
This is what I found with one of my colts. Testical was right there easy to get to. I was worried that I would have a big expense and ended up as a regular geld. |
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   Location: The stix of Utah | My colt had one that wouldn't drop. We originally tried to get him done at 6 months and at the advice of my vet waited until the spring after he was 1 to see if it would drop on its own. At that point he still hadn't dropped and the vet advised to proceed with the surgery. Afterwards, the vet told me Jack would be extra sore and walking funny since he was to the spine before he found it. Ha! I think if it hasn't dropped yet, it isn't likely to. I was worried the surgery was going to be stupid expensive and was pleasantly surprised with the price even with as extensive as the surgery ended up being. If you haven't been quoted a price, I would call. It *might* not be as expensive as you are thinking. Good luck! |
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  Neat Freak
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | wanted to add that all I have seen that were crypt had the teeniest little nut you ever seen. One was about the size of a walnut. Vet said when they are that small, they just won't decend. |
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 Hog Tie My Mojo
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       Location: Opelousas, LA | Thanks for the replies, I think the surgery will run $500-700. Probabaly going to just get it done and over with, he's a well behaved colt but he is also around a bunch of mean, pregnant mares, things may change when they start foaling and coming in to heat. |
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| We did a series of HCG shots and boy did those babies DROP! It wasn't too expensive but they HURT and my horse would like to kill you if you come near him with a needle now. Sad we gelded him but being very pregnant with a stud colt and no other experienced stud handlers just wasn't working out in my colt's favor. Since he dropped nicely it was only $200 for the exam, sedation, and procedure vs. the $1500 surgery. HCG injections were about $150 total. |
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       Location: Washington | Didn't read all the replies but I thought we had one so I talked to a couple vets.
Ours was just over a year and vet said there was only a 10% chance of the second dropping but some DO drop once sedated and relaxed.
Also have you felt him up or had the vet officially check. I did a half asked job and could only ever feel or see one but when the vet come out for another we had him check and he said yes it was for sure there and we got it done. He said with a younger horse they hold one higher then the other. |
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 No Tune in a Bucket
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       Location: Texas | luvropin - 2015-12-15 3:02 PM LMS - 2015-12-15 1:59 PM Will the horse let you feel? Sometimes the inguanal ring is open and they ascend and descend very easily-if so-the vet can get it done the "normal" way. If not you will have to have the full blown exploratory surgery. This is what I found with one of my colts. Testical was right there easy to get to. I was worried that I would have a big expense and ended up as a regular geld.
This is also the experience that we had with our now gelding. |
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