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MidWest1452
Reg. May 2013
Posted 2017-04-21 2:31 PM
Subject: Strangles--help?



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Two months ago I got some information that a barn not far from the one I manage had a strangles going through their barn. They think it came from a horse that was brought up from Oklahoma. The owner of the barn I manage suggested we all vaccinate our horses for strangles as her vet suggested it to her. We did that back in march and boostered it a few weeks later via her vets instructions. I had been planning to attend a few barrel runs at the end of April/beginning of May as I had heard that they weren't allowing horses in or out of that barn that has strangles till it ran it's course.

Now today I got word that the barn that has strangles going aroun are having a barrel clinic there this weekend with outside horses coming in for that. They are also planning to attend a big run the first weekend of May in our area... My friend who boards at this boarding barn that has the strangles going around says that the last horse that had been confirmed sick was on April 5th.

I am not familiar with strangles and how this all works...

Entry fees are due today for the run in a few weeks and I had been planning to mail mine off but now I don't know what to do if there is a chance these horses from that barn will be there.. go.. don't go.


Any info, help, advice about strangles would be greatly appreciated.
I have a call into my vet for her to get back to me so I can discuss with her but haven't heard from her yet.


Edited by MidWest1452 2017-04-21 2:53 PM
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amandacamarano
Reg. Aug 2010
Posted 2017-04-21 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: Strangles--help?



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I wouldn't go...there will be other races. If all the infected horses had three negative tests and it had been 30 days (to kill it on the ground, in theory)...then I would go. But since the last one was confirmed sick two weeks ago - nope, not worth the pain in the butt that strangles is, IMO.

We had strangles in a barn in my area, mine got the vaccine and booster...then the barn I board at had two horses get it (one in the paddock next to my youngest). My youngest got it in January...not bad, he stopped eating his Omnis cubes (still ate his grain), he coughed, had some mucus in his nose and had a 104 fever. I gave him penicillin for several days and put him in quarantine. My other two never got it. He was released from the "Valley of the Lepers" in March (lost a lot of weight, still trying to put it back on).

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flyingcolors
Reg. Aug 2005
Posted 2017-04-21 4:00 PM
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Don't go.  I dealt with Strangles in college. We had horses get all degrees of it and trust me you do not take that chance. That is not enough time. I don't care how careful you are.  
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2017-04-21 4:50 PM
Subject: RE: Strangles--help?




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GO ... you got a shot and boosters .. so go and see if they
work and report back to BHW... YES OR NO ...

Since event is local just take care of business ... run your
races .. load up and return home. Think of it this way ...
if you had to travel to a barn you would not know what
recent diseases went on there and you would enjoy your
time there.

Strangles is a must have disease to gain immunity ...
yearling or 2yo is best time and not in the summer time
(more stressful).

Treatment is simple ....
DO NOTHING AS LONG AS THEY ARE EATING AND DRINKING ..

Worst thing you can do is to give any kind of antibiotics and
drive strangles into the lymph system and have it turn into
bastard strangles.. Trust me ... you do not want a case of
bastard strangles by using antibiotics ... 50-50 chance of
surviving even with some surgery and potent antibiotics
trying to kill it and abcesses where ever the lymph glands
are... poll, jaw, neck, chest, lower rib cage and buttock ...

so be happy with the under the jaw abcess and
DO NOTHING other than spraying it with water and putting
some furazone // greasy stuff on it to keep it soft and leaking ...
and for God's sake .. don't figure out how to cover it up
with a bandage .... big NO NO ... bandages are heaven
to bacterial infections ..

A good vet would do nothing other than
lancing it so it will stay open and drain better.

GOOD LUCK .. IT IS JUST ONE OF THOSE CHILDHOOD DISEASES
THEY MUST GO THRU ...
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cinjunbianca
Reg. Apr 2017
Posted 2017-04-21 11:28 PM
Subject: RE: Strangles--help?


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Good answer!!!
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gotothewhip
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2017-04-24 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: Strangles--help?



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Strangles is everywhere this year!  We never really have had a problem in Colorado- And we can trace most of the new cases of strangles in Colorado to all the folks "rescuing" horses from kill lots and auctions.  They bring home their rescue, and BOOM! strangles runs thru the barn. Now its everywhere in Colorado!

I vaccinated mine for the first time since moving here from Oklahoma.  Im boostering again next week. 

If I was in your shoes- I think I would go to the clinic.  I wouldnt tie my horses anywhere except my own trailer ( dont tie in the arena or in a stall, or to panels) and obviously use only my own waterbuckets and haybags.  No nose-tonose contact.  If you have hauled at all, you have likley - at some point- been around a horse who has had strangles recently...  
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2017-04-24 11:23 AM
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Not worth going to me, their will be other barrel races. 
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2017-04-24 11:26 AM
Subject: RE: Strangles--help?


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Strangles is highly contagious, it travels in the dirt on your boots, in your horses feet, even in the hair if your horse rolls in an area that has been infected.

Strangles is generally not life threatening, my vet is actually against vaccination as there are more horses that die from the vaccine then from the disease itself.

I had strangles go through my herd 2 yrs ago as a horse coming back from a trainer brought it. I stayed home for a month, monitored the horses, now all of mine have been exposed and in theory have the immunity.

I worry more about rhino then I do strangles.
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MidWest1452
Reg. May 2013
Posted 2017-04-24 11:31 AM
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Thanks all! I have done some more digging and this barn is supposedly still on quarantine till mid may so in theory they shouldn't be going anywhere or having anyone on the property. If i do go to any run in the near future I will only be going for the day and defiantly will not be stalling. At this point.. I will be staying home till I am more confident they aren't horses traveling from actively infected barns. I know there is always a risk but it's too bad when people are traveling when they have actively sick horses back home.

ETA: I am not so much worried about the mare I run but I manage a boarding facility and there are horses at my barn who are just peoples pets and have never "been off the farm" so I would be worried about them getting it if my mare brings it back. Not worth the trouble. I couldn't live with myself If I know the information and choose to go still and then end up making the other horses sick.

Edited by MidWest1452 2017-04-24 11:34 AM
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Kay-DRacing.
Reg. Jun 2009
Posted 2017-04-24 12:17 PM
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MidWest1452 - 2017-04-24 11:31 AM Thanks all! I have done some more digging and this barn is supposedly still on quarantine till mid may so in theory they shouldn't be going anywhere or having anyone on the property. If i do go to any run in the near future I will only be going for the day and defiantly will not be stalling. At this point.. I will be staying home till I am more confident they aren't horses traveling from actively infected barns. I know there is always a risk but it's too bad when people are traveling when they have actively sick horses back home. ETA: I am not so much worried about the mare I run but I manage a boarding facility and there are horses at my barn who are just peoples pets and have never "been off the farm" so I would be worried about them getting it if my mare brings it back. Not worth the trouble. I couldn't live with myself If I know the information and choose to go still and then end up making the other horses sick.

MidWest- Could you please PM me which place this is? 
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CE's wrapn3
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2017-04-24 3:39 PM
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 I would go
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MidWest1452
Reg. May 2013
Posted 2017-04-24 3:43 PM
Subject: RE: Strangles--help?



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Kay-DRacing. - 2017-04-24 12:17 PM

MidWest1452 - 2017-04-24 11:31 AM Thanks all! I have done some more digging and this barn is supposedly still on quarantine till mid may so in theory they shouldn't be going anywhere or having anyone on the property. If i do go to any run in the near future I will only be going for the day and defiantly will not be stalling. At this point.. I will be staying home till I am more confident they aren't horses traveling from actively infected barns. I know there is always a risk but it's too bad when people are traveling when they have actively sick horses back home. ETA: I am not so much worried about the mare I run but I manage a boarding facility and there are horses at my barn who are just peoples pets and have never "been off the farm" so I would be worried about them getting it if my mare brings it back. Not worth the trouble. I couldn't live with myself If I know the information and choose to go still and then end up making the other horses sick.

MidWest- Could you please PM me which place this is? 

I pmed you
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BS Hauler
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2017-04-25 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: Strangles--help?


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I would go. Its like not letting your kid go outside or to school because you are afraid he would get something. When in reality the ones that are outside in the dirt or getting exposed to everything are the healthy ones.
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