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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | It's funny the differences between disciplines & regions when it comes to horse management & especially when it comes to stallion management. So many stallions are kept isolated.
A few years back in America's Horse I read about a QH ranch that turned all their stallions and geldings out together on a big piece of acreage. Some of them were high dollar too. Saw a documentatry about a Missouri Fox Trotter farm in Colorado that turns all their geldings and stallions out on the same piece of land too and it was smaller than the QH place.
We kept my Bay horse out with the gelding until we cut him at 6. We picked up a 12 year old gelding that had never been out with anybody and he went out with the geldings too. I didn't have any problems until we gelded him. He now goes out with the mares.
Ran across this on FB and I think it's very interesting. I'm sure these are high dollar warm blood horses....
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=569193863124077&fref=nf
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| At a race horse barn two studs were kept stalled next to each other with a sold 8 foot wall between them. One night they tore the wall down between them. They fought til both were too exhausted to fight. Trainer found them the next morning, butts against opposite walls, staring each other down in each other's stall. They'd built quite an animosity towards one another through that stall wall. Years ago at 440 Ranches in Texas, the studs were purposely turned loose one night by people sending a message to the owner and several were injured fighting. I had a stud colt about 7 or 8 months old in a pipe and cable pen next to an older stud. The colt would antagonize the stud nipping at him across the fence. The stud reached through the fence one night and took a hunk of muscle and hide out of the colt's shoulder and withers that left scars he still carries as a fifteen year old gelding. Yes, some studs can run together under the right conditions-no mares in close proximity, after breeding season and in a large, open area where they're free to burn off energy and it's good for them to learn to be a social animal, but do you know any stallion farms that would try it? |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Nature installs into the brain of a stallion, he should have a harem... The best stallion management I have ever seen is a stallion in a pasture with 1 mare... Horses pair up in groups of two.. sure it''s a small harem.... But it's a harem!! |
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Location: Midwest | Amongst the mustangs, some get left without mares and form bachelor bands of stallions that run together.
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Location: SE Louisiana | barrelracr131 - 2014-08-02 8:06 AM
Amongst the mustangs, some get left without mares and form bachelor bands of stallions that run together.
......and they ain't a darn bit happy about it.... Why they would wanna spend a whole year around a cranky naggy mare, I dunno...
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | So were they doing a study on these stallions, what was the purpose of this video I wonder? 
Edited by Southtxponygirl 2014-08-02 10:49 AM
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I am a Freak
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Location: Nowhere Special | I run my one stallion with seveal geldings year round and right across the driveway is about 20 head of mares. He has also run with a band of mares and as a show horse spent a lot of time in isolation before retiring.. He much prefers his pasture time with his buddies.
My other stallion runs with one mare and the foal till we wean every year. He use to have a lot of mares but I sold out all of our broodmares. Like Fairweather said I came from the east and there you just didn't allow a stallion to be a horse (ie isolation) so he was raised in the pasture till he was 3 then seperated into his own large pasture and stall.. He became a MONSTER, he was aggressive towards the mares during hand breeding, he was hard to handle at breeding time, he was a PIA at home, under saddle complete gentleman and he haulded and showed well, but at home OMG was he a jerk.. Got to the point where I just couldn't hardly handle him any longer and it was either geld him or sell him or ???... I bought up a few really married up take no crap ranch broodmares and turned them out then turned him in, and those mares took him to town and made him the most docile, wonderful, easy to get along with horse on the place. He babysits the weanlings, it takes 20 mins to hand breed a mare now as he is so quiet and patient about it. He gets along and get pushed around by everything on the place, heck the barn cat slaped him in the face yesterday and he took off for the shed.. LOL hes just a doll.. But point being a lot of stallions are made crazy from the isolation and most would greatly benifit from being allowed to be horses..
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I am a Freak
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Location: Nowhere Special | Southtxponygirl - 2014-08-02 9:32 AM So were they doing a study on these stallions, what was the purpose of this video I wonder?
Probably just to show that stallions when in large groups together don't just start savaging each other,, Most of it is just a lot of squealing with not much else going on and then how quickly they clam down and you don't know if you are looking at a pasture full of mares, geldings or stallions as the dynamics are pretty much the same |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | jetgetset - 2014-08-02 8:40 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-08-02 9:32 AM So were they doing a study on these stallions, what was the purpose of this video I wonder?
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | jetgetset - 2014-08-02 8:32 PM I run my one stallion with seveal geldings year round and right across the driveway is about 20 head of mares. He has also run with a band of mares and as a show horse spent a lot of time in isolation before retiring.. He much prefers his pasture time with his buddies.
My other stallion runs with one mare and the foal till we wean every year. He use to have a lot of mares but I sold out all of our broodmares. Like Fairweather said I came from the east and there you just didn't allow a stallion to be a horse (ie isolation) so he was raised in the pasture till he was 3 then seperated into his own large pasture and stall.. He became a MONSTER, he was aggressive towards the mares during hand breeding, he was hard to handle at breeding time, he was a PIA at home, under saddle complete gentleman and he haulded and showed well, but at home OMG was he a jerk.. Got to the point where I just couldn't hardly handle him any longer and it was either geld him or sell him or ???... I bought up a few really married up take no crap ranch broodmares and turned them out then turned him in, and those mares took him to town and made him the most docile, wonderful, easy to get along with horse on the place. He babysits the weanlings, it takes 20 mins to hand breed a mare now as he is so quiet and patient about it. He gets along and get pushed around by everything on the place, heck the barn cat slaped him in the face yesterday and he took off for the shed.. LOL hes just a doll.. But point being a lot of stallions are made crazy from the isolation and most would greatly benifit from being allowed to be horses..
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Location: OH | I am guilty as charged----our one stud was out with the mares until he was three and we did not put him back out after breeding season that year and it sure has been a mistake. He is seven now and after we wean this year I think we are going to turn him out with just a couple mares at first once we wean this year. He would be a lot happier animal if we would--it is just a lot of worry at first. I know those mares are really gonna tune on him for a little bit. |
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Location: Florida.. | Our warmbloods stallions werent "isolated" but they werent turned loose together.. they were all stalled in same stud barn .. with a few geldings in there to.. they all acted like gentlemen around other horses (respectful) and well mannered.. never talked in hand and never lunged at walls.. or horses.. but we wouldnt turn them out together.. we have competed,, stood next to , swam and hacked out with mares and stallions and its not a big deal or issue at all.. but yes I do feel for there safety they werent allowed turned out in same pasture.. we all do things differantly but its not wrong.. Isolation is wrong on so many levels though.. they need to interact..They actually all remained in same pasture til they were long yearlings..
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Location: Mississippi | The best thing for them is to have a buddy. I left mine turned out with a bread mare or one he had bread and he was happy. He would turn out with geldings but got pushy when his fave mare would come up in the pasture across from him |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Cowgirl_Tuff8403 - 2014-08-04 4:17 PM The best thing for them is to have a buddy. I left mine turned out with a bread mare or one he had bread and he was happy. He would turn out with geldings but got pushy when his fave mare would come up in the pasture across from him
I dont want to be a jerk here but this is bothering me, its bred not bread. I know I'm one of the worst spellers here but.....  |
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