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Location: Loma Linda, CA | Just curious what process you do with your young ones...
I know it can be different for every horse, but in general what order do you teach things - start to finish. :)
I've started mine with just basic guiding, softening, tons of circles to follow the nose to start.
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Location: Texas | It's different for all but I have complete body control before I ever show them a barrel. I lope one barrel a while but I start the barrels at a lope. I lope for months before I ever ask for speed. |
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Location: Loma Linda, CA | Sorry I guess I should specify, not starting/finishing barrels, but under saddle!
And details/specifics :)
Edit: I am not a novice rider, but recently went on a leave of absence at work so need to finish my colts under saddle. I have started them, but need to continue them out as I had to pull them from their trainer. They are still super green and I don't want to leave any holes - so I just want to get kind of an idea of what the proper direction is to go.
I've always either had finished horses or used trainers, but now I get to do it myself. Which was always a goal of mine. I just want to do it right :)
Edited by Phxbarrel 2016-01-24 11:36 PM
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| Be consistent I ride one six days a week,even if I can only ride for 15 minutes. It's hard in the winter if it isn't raining or below20 I'm on that horse till they are around six, be mindful about how you handle that horse as soon as you put a halter on it. I focus on my hands and with the last few colts I've been starting to move there hips so I would be interested in how good some of you all get the hip freed up and the results, I rode with a top rider for a dozen of years and they only concerned themselves with moving the shoulder. |
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| Each one of the movement need to be taught by themselves and as the horse gets 70% smooth in several start joining the movements together in a session and do not stop and nag if minor mistake is made ...
Rider has to stay focused on the movements, momentum and anticipate to prevent a mistake ..
Circles correct leads
Turnarounds (no rollbacks) keep feet up under horse and rider changes from 90-180-360 to two turnarounds and pick up correct lead at a lope
Sidepassing
two tracking
flying lead changes
rein and leg cues move left to right while loping
ending session with thinking things to get run off their minds ..
rope a barrel
shake a noisy chain // door
open and close a gate
and anything else I forgot ..
One other thing no one ever mentions or does ..... teach your horse to stop like a calf horse .... when you stand up and go to dismount at a walk, trot and lope by swinging one leg over saddle like you were getting off and sometimes do get completely off and stand there beside your horse .. ... this is a safety issue that I always taught my youngsters in case I started to fall off ... they would come to a crashing halt ... don't get crazy and jerk their heads off .. they learn this very quickly ...
Watch this 10 times taking notes before you go start training on your colts ...
https://youtu.be/UwgdHnbmQFk
Thanks to Becky Amio Trainer and Merrill Ranch for providing the best training barrel horse movement video I have ever seen ...
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| BARRELHORSE USA - 2016-01-25 2:16 AM
Each one of the movement need to be taught by themselves and as the horse gets 70% smooth in several start joining the movements together in a session and do not stop and nag if minor mistake is made ...
Rider has to stay focused on the movements, momentum and anticipate to prevent a mistake ..
Circles correct leads
Turnarounds (no rollbacks ) keep feet up under horse and rider changes from 90-180-360 to two turnarounds and pick up correct lead at a lope
Sidepassing
two tracking
flying lead changes
rein and leg cues move left to right while loping
ending session with thinking things to get run off their minds ..
rope a barrel
shake a noisy chain // door
open and close a gate
and anything else I forgot ..
One other thing no one ever mentions or does ..... teach your horse to stop like a calf horse .... when you stand up and go to dismount at a walk, trot and lope by swinging one leg over saddle like you were getting off and sometimes do get completely off and stand there beside your horse .. ... this is a safety issue that I always taught my youngsters in case I started to fall off ... they would come to a crashing halt ... don't get crazy and jerk their heads off .. they learn this very quickly ...
Watch this 10 times taking notes before you go start training on your colts ...
https://youtu.be/UwgdHnbmQFk
Thanks to Becky Amio Trainer and Merrill Ranch for providing the best training barrel horse movement video I have ever seen ...
This and teach them to cross over and flex at the poll. We don't run a rollback style around here so we don't do rollbacks.
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Location: Oklahoma | I spend more time outside of an arena in the natural terrain than I do in an arena. Mine spend 4 days a week out on the trails. They learn about joggers, baby strollers, 4-wheelers, hikers, dogs, etc. We work on leads and flexing and moving body parts while on trail. They cross water, go across ravines, etc. I like keeping their minds busy and letting them see new scenery. |
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Location: West Texas | tin can - 2016-01-25 12:53 AM
Be consistent I ride one six days a week,even if I can only ride for 15 minutes. It's hard in the winter if it isn't raining or below20 I'm on that horse till they are around six, be mindful about how you handle that horse as soon as you put a halter on it. I focus on my hands and with the last few colts I've been starting to move there hips so I would be interested in how good some of you all get the hip freed up and the results, I rode with a top rider for a dozen of years and they only concerned themselves with moving the shoulder.
The shoulder is the most important is why. The hip is easy and you start moving the hip during breaking. All performance horse trainers focus on breaking the shoulder loose, as it is the biggest part of resistance in the horse. Work on rib cage and shoulder, to get a really broke horse. |
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Location: West Texas | Phxbarrel - 2016-01-24 11:33 PM
Sorry I guess I should specify, not starting/finishing barrels, but under saddle!
And details/specifics :)
Edit: I am not a novice rider, but recently went on a leave of absence at work so need to finish my colts under saddle. I have started them, but need to continue them out as I had to pull them from their trainer. They are still super green and I don't want to leave any holes - so I just want to get kind of an idea of what the proper direction is to go.
I've always either had finished horses or used trainers, but now I get to do it myself. Which was always a goal of mine. I just want to do it right :)
Super hard question to get advice on a forum. You might invest in a dvd set from a trainer that you like. There really isn't a set order with any body and there are tons of factors on what and how you train. Basically, I suggest working on the most basic things and work on being able to isolate different parts of the body. Things you want out of a horse: softness in the face, able to move hips, ribs, and shoulders, up in the shoulders and not down (many folks struggle with this one), drive from behind. Things you can do are counter bending, cutting turns (a backing maneuver), turnarounds (a forward maneuver), rollbacks on the fence, counter cantering with collection. But riding and training for movement and feel, is more important than actual drills. We like to see a horse that is up in the shoulder, does not dive in to circle, and follows their nose with the shoulder, while being soft in the face, rounded in the back, and driving from behind. It is important to have a rear wheeled horse as opposed to a front wheel drive. |
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Location: Loma Linda, CA | Thanks everyone for the feed back! :) |
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Location: texas | Reining Essentials by Sandy Collier is a great book...
Training Secrets for a Better-Broke Horse, the 7 essentials she discusses are must haves....
She also troubleshoots , she describes how to fix areas as well....
But yes i agree w above poster, buy books or dvd set and go from there.....
Good Luck on ur soft/supple/broke horse |
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| teamthompson - 2016-02-29 1:35 PM
Reining Essentials by Sandy Collier is a great book...
Training Secrets for a Better-Broke Horse, the 7 essentials she discusses are must haves....
She also troubleshoots , she describes how to fix areas as well....
But yes i agree w above poster, buy books or dvd set and go from there.....
Good Luck on ur soft/supple/broke horse
I owned a Yellow Roan of Texas gelding out of Sandy's barn. That woman makes PHENOMENAL horses.  |
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| A pretty good book is Training your horse in 33 steps by sean Patrick. I scoffed at the idea of a train by the numbers type of book, but there is a lot of information about the thought process and how the lessons build on each other. Even if you don't agree with everything he does/teaches, it helps to think about how how teaching this concept will set up the foundation for the next.
I also differ a lot from some people. I believe if you really ride/engage the hip (and keep a horse soft and accepting in the bridle) , the shoulders are automatically freer. shoulders can't be free when a horse is on it's front end.
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