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| I know it is up to the producers of each race, but what are your thoughts of two people running the same horse? Is there an industry standard?
I always thought you could only share a horse if it was immediate family, but I had attended a race this weekend where the same 1D/2D horse was shared by two sisters... Both had other horses entered as well, but wanted to run this same horse twice. They are immediate family so I guess the rule doesnt apply?
I am just looking for a little clarification before I ask the producer. | |
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 Shelter Dog Lover
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| It all depends on the producer, there is no "understood rule". At our local races there are no rules for this. I have attended big shows where only immediate family could share and shows where no matter what the same horse could not be entered twice. I have not given it much thought, but if there is not a rule preventing it, it would not bother me. We have producers here who let you enter twice if you don't like your first run, not much difference.
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| Pretty much everything I have seen has had the rule that the horse couldn't be entered twice in the open. Once in the open and once in the youth (with 2 seperate jockeys) is acceptable. But 100% agree, this would depend on the producer. | |
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| I guess it's up to producers, but NBHA has a rule.
12. Contestants may ride any horse, regardless of ownership, and may ride as many horses as they choose in a class. However, a horse may not be shown by more than one person in a class, unless the following conditions are met:
a. Both contestants are members of the same immediate family who
reside in the same household (husband, wife, siblings, children and grandchildren). Children and grandchildren who are attending school away from home, but who reside part of the year with their parents or grandparents are included under this rule.
b. Neither contestant is showing any other horse in that class.
c. In no case will the same horse be run more than twice in the
same class. | |
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| Nateracer - 2016-10-17 11:11 AM
I guess it's up to producers, but NBHA has a rule.
12. Contestants may ride any horse, regardless of ownership, and may ride as many horses as they choose in a class. However, a horse may not be shown by more than one person in a class, unless the following conditions are met:
a. Both contestants are members of the same immediate family who
reside in the same household (husband, wife, siblings, children and grandchildren). Children and grandchildren who are attending school away from home, but who reside part of the year with their parents or grandparents are included under this rule.
b. Neither contestant is showing any other horse in that class.
c. In no case will the same horse be run more than twice in the
same class.
So if I'm reading that correctly. . . my husband and I can run the same horse, as long as neither of us enter on a different horse? I wonder how much of an issue that would be if I tried it at a local NBHA lol! I am betting most don't know this is a rule.  | |
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| Nateracer - 2016-10-17 10:11 AM I guess it's up to producers, but NBHA has a rule.
12. Contestants may ride any horse, regardless of ownership, and may ride as many horses as they choose in a class. However, a horse may not be shown by more than one person in a class, unless the following conditions are met:
a. Both contestants are members of the same immediate family who
reside in the same household (husband, wife, siblings, children and grandchildren). Children and grandchildren who are attending school away from home, but who reside part of the year with their parents or grandparents are included under this rule.
b. Neither contestant is showing any other horse in that class.
c. In no case will the same horse be run more than twice in the
same class.
This rules makes sense to me! | |
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  Keeper of the King Snake
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Location: Dubach, LA | I can tell you that NBHA rules don't matter much even at cosanction events. Producers do what they want to do. It's their race. | |
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Miss Southern Sunshine
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Location: South Central Florida | WrapN3MN - 2016-10-17 12:33 PM Nateracer - 2016-10-17 11:11 AM I guess it's up to producers, but NBHA has a rule.
12. Contestants may ride any horse, regardless of ownership, and may ride as many horses as they choose in a class. However, a horse may not be shown by more than one person in a class, unless the following conditions are met:
a. Both contestants are members of the same immediate family who
reside in the same household (husband, wife, siblings, children and grandchildren). Children and grandchildren who are attending school away from home, but who reside part of the year with their parents or grandparents are included under this rule.
b. Neither contestant is showing any other horse in that class.
c. In no case will the same horse be run more than twice in the
same class. So if I'm reading that correctly. . . my husband and I can run the same horse, as long as neither of us enter on a different horse? I wonder how much of an issue that would be if I tried it at a local NBHA lol! I am betting most don't know this is a rule.
We have had it come up more than once in Florida at district shows. I'm pretty sure around here, most people know the rule.
Generally it's a producers rule.
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| Nateracer - 2016-10-17 11:11 AM I guess it's up to producers, but NBHA has a rule.
12. Contestants may ride any horse, regardless of ownership, and may ride as many horses as they choose in a class. However, a horse may not be shown by more than one person in a class, unless the following conditions are met:
a. Both contestants are members of the same immediate family who
reside in the same household (husband, wife, siblings, children and grandchildren). Children and grandchildren who are attending school away from home, but who reside part of the year with their parents or grandparents are included under this rule.
b. Neither contestant is showing any other horse in that class.
c. In no case will the same horse be run more than twice in the
same class.
So as per NBHA rules I could run my horse in the Open class, and let a youth (who is not my immediate relative or lives with me) run him in the Youth class? | |
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| scwebster - 2016-10-17 11:01 AM Nateracer - 2016-10-17 11:11 AM I guess it's up to producers, but NBHA has a rule.
12. Contestants may ride any horse, regardless of ownership, and may ride as many horses as they choose in a class. However, a horse may not be shown by more than one person in a class, unless the following conditions are met:
a. Both contestants are members of the same immediate family who
reside in the same household (husband, wife, siblings, children and grandchildren). Children and grandchildren who are attending school away from home, but who reside part of the year with their parents or grandparents are included under this rule.
b. Neither contestant is showing any other horse in that class.
c. In no case will the same horse be run more than twice in the
same class. So as per NBHA rules I could run my horse in the Open class, and let a youth (who is not my immediate relative or lives with me) run him in the Youth class?
Yes, I understand it the same way as long as it is not the same class. | |
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Miss Laundry Misshap
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| scwebster - 2016-10-17 12:01 PM Nateracer - 2016-10-17 11:11 AM I guess it's up to producers, but NBHA has a rule.
12. Contestants may ride any horse, regardless of ownership, and may ride as many horses as they choose in a class. However, a horse may not be shown by more than one person in a class, unless the following conditions are met:
a. Both contestants are members of the same immediate family who
reside in the same household (husband, wife, siblings, children and grandchildren). Children and grandchildren who are attending school away from home, but who reside part of the year with their parents or grandparents are included under this rule.
b. Neither contestant is showing any other horse in that class.
c. In no case will the same horse be run more than twice in the
same class. So as per NBHA rules I could run my horse in the Open class, and let a youth (who is not my immediate relative or lives with me) run him in the Youth class?
Yes, different classes don't matter. It's the same class where it becomes an issue | |
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Extreme Veteran
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| CanCan - 2016-10-17 10:56 AM I can tell you that NBHA rules don't matter much even at cosanction events. Producers do what they want to do. It's their race.
Which is exactly why I am asking if there was a standard rule or if it is truly up to the producer. | |
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Location: "...way down south in the Everglades..." | Mis_Trev - 2016-10-17 1:08 PM CanCan - 2016-10-17 10:56 AM I can tell you that NBHA rules don't matter much even at cosanction events. Producers do what they want to do. It's their race. Which is exactly why I am asking if there was a standard rule or if it is truly up to the producer.
My understanding is if it's NBHA co sanctioned, that the producer could technically allow that but that any points must be accumulated according to NBHA rules. So payout and run..I'd say yes they could get away with it if the producer approves, but not for points. Typically though, they should be going by NBHA rules. If this is NOT a NBHA or NBHA co-sanctioned event then it's totally up to the producer. You should probably ask the producer what rules they are enforcing regarding payout. For example, a producer can run a co-sanctioned event as a 3-D, but points will still be awarded through NBHA's 5-D system. | |
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Location: mi | It's hit or miss in our area. Just depends on the organization or producer. My niece and I (both adults) are currently sharing a horse. We looks for events that allow us to both enter on him.
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