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Location: London Ontario | Now it may be that I am just cheap because I know I am but I was looking at some of the horses for sale on here and there are ones for sale that are $20,000+ that just run in the 2D?! Now again this is just me but if I am paying that much I would hope my horse would run and do well in the 1D at least!!! Or there are ones who are great grandkids of nice studs but haven’t had done much at all and they want that much. You can't guarantee your horse is going to be a 1D horse until they've proven themselves!
Am I wrong to think this way, like am I naive orrrrr what? |
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  Queen Boobie 2
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| Depends on who they are 2-D against. If it's a horse that wins money (not bottom of the 2-D times) in the 2-D at barrel races with 300 or more entries, that in my mind is worth a LOT more than a horse that wins 2-D money at a 30 head jackpot or runs "technically" in the 2-D but is consistently 8 or 9 tenths off the 1-D winning time.
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 Proud to be Deplorable
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| It all depends on what market the horse is in. 20k for a 2D in texas is about right. |
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
Posts: 5271
| I just saw that Diane Guinn has a friends horse for sale that is 1D for $10,000. Said the owner is in a financial pickle. I'd snatch that sucker up!
I've seen 1D-2D from 8-120 grand. It just depends on who's selling and IF they are actually getting buyers.
The thing I find annoying is yearlings for sale at $20K because of their papers. I just can't see spending that kind of money on something that young and unproven. |
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 You get what you give
Posts: 13030
Location: Texas | Hey my 1d/2d gelding is 15,000...LOL. He pulls checks for the most part too.
I don't have anything against valuable yearlings. And if I ever sell anything of that caliber I won't hold it against a buyer for paying me :p |
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 The best bad guy on the internet
Posts: 3519
Location: Arizona | I will be in the market soon for a 1D/2D horse. I am hoping to find one under the age of 13 and is proven for less than $15k....  |
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 Damn Yankee
Posts: 12390
Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Every horse is different. If it's a young horse with tons of potential that is cruising 2D and winning, well, that's different then one that is older and can only ever run 2D.
That being said, there are plenty of people out there that are willing to value a solid 2D horse at 20k because that is what they want. There are tons of 2D horses out there, all worth something different.
Each horse is only worth how bad someone in particular wants it. |
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 Coyote Country Queen
Posts: 5666
| You have to think about the expenses of getting that horse to a solid 2D horse. First somebody had to get that foal on the ground, raise it, feed it, care for it, and then they had to train it, haul it, season it, etc. There are a lot of expenses into these horses. If a person can afford to spend that kind of money all at once, they are probably money ahead of someone that has to raise one or buy it young and do all of the work themselves.
I do agree that there are plenty of over-priced horses for sale. But there are also plenty of deals to be had. As a buyer, you just have to know your budget and then be able to weed through all of the for sale ads to see which horses are the real deal and which ones are over-priced.
Personally, I think that $20,000 for a horse that is top of the 2D at the big shows is priced in the range I'd expect to pay for one of this caliber. |
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 Shelter Dog Lover
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| That is what the going rate is here in Texas for a sound consistent 2D. You want consistent 1D start at double that price. You can find a deal if you are lucky, but if they have a record you are going to pay. |
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Damn Yankee
Posts: 12390
Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | This is why I got in the habit a very long time ago to take photos or get copies of the results from every single show I ever attend, whether I place or not. At first I started doing it because I thought I would sell a bay gelding that turned into my best horse. Then I kept doing it after he died tragically because I realized how nice it was to have those memories for his scrapbook.
I like having hard copies of results to show where the horse placed, winning time versus his time, who we ran against, where, number of entries, etc etc etc.
I have never ever been in the market for a finished horse because I train my own. But if I ever was, those are the things I would want to see if I was going to spend a large sum of money. |
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Location: Fort Bragg North Carolina | you are not crazy the price of horses are ridiculous. i wont even tell you how much my horses cost they are both 2d and one is a 19-20 sec pole horse and i promise you i didnt pay near 10-20k. its just stupid to me!! the horse could come home and break a leg or have a horrible injury then what?! LOL your out of 20 k. id rather train and sell a winner to the right person than to try to get that kind of money. 2-D is not a winning horse in my opinion prolly because im brought up rodeo'n. id rather buy one for nothing and turn them into something its more rewarding! its a dang horse people!!! lol |
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 There Could Be Aliens Out There
Posts: 1393
Location: North Central Kansas | LIVE2RUN - 2014-03-11 1:55 PM
I will be in the market soon for a 1D/2D horse. I am hoping to find one under the age of 13 and is proven for less than $15k....
Its hard but can be done. I snatched up a 7yo mare out of Oklahoma for a little over 15k that is running 1D/2D and placed at ammy rodeos in Oklahoma last summer. I've had my eye on her for 2 years now. Previously was asking 25k but dropped the price. I was on it in a heartbeat. |
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Location: home for the winter...what a dumb idea | I have a nice gelding was running 2D with room to improve.... ran sold 3D with youth who didn't push him for 6500.....I just don't have time for him....he needs legging up |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | Jenbabe - 2014-03-11 2:10 PM You have to think about the expenses of getting that horse to a solid 2D horse. First somebody had to get that foal on the ground, raise it, feed it, care for it, and then they had to train it, haul it, season it, etc. There are a lot of expenses into these horses. If a person can afford to spend that kind of money all at once, they are probably money ahead of someone that has to raise one or buy it young and do all of the work themselves. I do agree that there are plenty of over-priced horses for sale. But there are also plenty of deals to be had. As a buyer, you just have to know your budget and then be able to weed through all of the for sale ads to see which horses are the real deal and which ones are over-priced. Personally, I think that $20,000 for a horse that is top of the 2D at the big shows is priced in the range I'd expect to pay for one of this caliber.
I agree.
And if a person doesn't want to spend $20K on one that's ready to jump in the trailer and go, if you have more time than money, go spend less, buy a nice prospect, and do all the training/seasoning/hauling yourself.
I've always made my own!
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Location: Texas! | I recently had my gelding appraised for insurance and I purchased him for $2700 as a 2 year old. All said and done when my insurance lady out a value to all the training I did on him I could insure him up to $30,000. He's solid 1/2d so thankful all that time and effort gets to pay off for me. But I guess technically I spent tens of thousands of dollars in training (to myself of course) hmmm and I'm still broke darn it! |
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