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| Looking for input before I follow through with my plan. Here's what I've got: after months of fussing with an abscess I have an infection free hoof, a sound horse BUT a big ole hole. The hole is kind of cone- shaped between the wall and heel of the frog. Does not reach the crevice of the frog (losing my vocab lol). I have spoken to a few people but would like more input. Current thoughts are:
1. Do not pad horse. To risky to trap moisture. Tried it once, set us back about a month.
2. Horse needs shoes to get up off the ground since that foot has been wrapped for almost 3 months, his sole is going to be weak. Though I have been painting with iodine.
3. Hole needs filled with something to keep dry and clean. Product found was Keratex hoof putty. It is labeled to fill old (resolved) abscess holes. This abscess has been "resolved" for a month, just had complications with the pad causing a bacterial infection on th surface of the hole.
My thoughts: shoe normally, use the putty, replace as needed.
As of right now he is diapered up. Very slightly off when rode (w,t,l) and I think that's due to a) not having shoes on and that foot not having more than a diaper between it and the ground and b) the hole is empty so stuff can potentially be poking it and it is a major weakness in the foot. May not cause "pain" but instability if that makes sense. I feel like once it's filled level with the sole and the sole is up off the majority of the pressure we should be good to move forward, or at least be taking another step toward rideable.
Adding he is on farriers formula Xtra strength.
ETA: rode him once, this morning. He has been sound about 2 weeks now running and bucking in the arena. He rode good but may have been ever so slightly off when I put him back out. I have seen this horse lame so much on that foot the last 90 days I feel like I would see it even if it wasn't there 0.o
Edited by RoaniePonie11 2015-07-01 3:20 PM
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| I have just used cotton ball pieces and stuffed it and packed it tight in those holes, sometimes I soak with iodine or other antibactieral after stuffing it in. I use a hoof pick and just push it in tight. It will usually stay in pretty well . I can change it every couple days or so until the horse is not sore anymore. Then I sometimes pack with hoof packing, but is doesnt seem to stay in as well as the cotton balls. I have found if I put any kind of more permenent such as keretex or silicone stuff, I end up with more issues before long. |
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| I didn't really think about just doing the cotton balls without the diaper. I currently put the iodine cotton balls in his foot with the diaper waiting on shoes 0.o both farriers I use are out of pocket until next week. Any who, TY much. |
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| You can put magic cushion under the pad, it has anti microbial properties to prevent thrush.
Also there is a dental packing my vet uses if they need pads, again it has anti I orbital properties |
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Location: Muskogee, OK | Keep bandaged until the hole granulates in and then leave open for the foot to dry out and harden up. |
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Location: Kansas | I followed the advice of my vet & farrier who consult each other.
Once they felt a pad was needed and it stayed on for two shoeings. The farrier put something between it and the hoof
The last time I was able to keep him barefoot and just kept it wrapped and dry for a couple of weeks.
There is no right or wrong answer, you treat based on the current condition and how good/bad it is
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| cheryl makofka - 2015-07-01 5:41 PM You can put magic cushion under the pad, it has anti microbial properties to prevent thrush. Also there is a dental packing my vet uses if they need pads, again it has anti I orbital properties
This is what I did. My mare had a puncture abscess about 4 weeks ago. She was very sore for about two weeks because the soft tissue (sole corium) that is under the sole, prolapsed through the abscess hole. I have never seen anything like that. After a couple of days of packing her hoof with sugardine and keeping her in a boot, I talked to my vet and farrier and they said I should put a pad on because there needs to be constant support to help allow the tissue to be pushed back upwards so her sole could heel over the top. I also heard about magic cushion from a friend. It is great stuff. It helps harden the sole and it has the antibacterial and antifungal properties in it to stop thrush or any other infection. You can pack the magic cushion under the pads.
I had my farrier put pads on about 2 weeks ago and my mare is doing great. She was comfortable after the first day or so the pads were placed. I am so glad I did that.
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| WetSaddleBlankets - 2015-07-01 10:32 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-07-01 5:41 PM You can put magic cushion under the pad, it has anti microbial properties to prevent thrush. Also there is a dental packing my vet uses if they need pads, again it has anti I orbital properties
This is what I did. My mare had a puncture abscess about 4 weeks ago. She was very sore for about two weeks because the soft tissue (sole corium) that is under the sole, prolapsed through the abscess hole. I have never seen anything like that. After a couple of days of packing her hoof with sugardine and keeping her in a boot, I talked to my vet and farrier and they said I should put a pad on because there needs to be constant support to help allow the tissue to be pushed back upwards so her sole could heel over the top. I also heard about magic cushion from a friend. It is great stuff. It helps harden the sole and it has the antibacterial and antifungal properties in it to stop thrush or any other infection. You can pack the magic cushion under the pads.
I had my farrier put pads on about 2 weeks ago and my mare is doing great. She was comfortable after the first day or so the pads were placed. I am so glad I did that.
My concern is waterproof-ness. Once done, will be be able to be in wet conditions and be ok? I do not have a barn at the new place yet and it's supposed to rain the weekend. I am told the Keratex will waterproof wherever I put it. |
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| Is your horse going to be in mud? I didn't leave my horse locked up when it rained. She is in a grassy pasture with a run in shed. |
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| WetSaddleBlankets - 2015-07-02 7:33 AM
Is your horse going to be in mud? I didn't leave my horse locked up when it rained. She is in a grassy pasture with a run in shed.
No, won't be in mud but will be in grassy turnout with shed that he won't get in unless I lock him in it.. |
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| So the thing with the pads is when we tried it my farrier (soon to be ex farrier) put pine tar (sole pak) under the pad and dirt and moisture still got under the pads and all of a sudden the horse was 3 legged and the entire bottom of his foot was moist and almost rotten. |
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| http://www.allivet.com/p-3544-animalintex-hoof-poultice.aspx?gclid=...
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That stuff is amazing. It's a medicated cotton pad that you just stuff up in the hole. I use a shoe nail to stuff it in. |
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Location: North Dakota | I know you said you were reluctant to do pads, but I had a very good experience with them. My farrier put some sort of antibacterial putty between the pad and the hoof so it stayed clean and protected. With that setup he was completely sound to ride despite having a hole in his hoof. My farrier also mentioned something called hospital plates exist that I guess you can open or take off a piece to allow you to clean the area and put back in place when done. |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Put easy boots on the front feet. You can take off to doctor and leave on for protection. |
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