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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I've heard and read that Governor Moonbeam signed into law a provision that automatically grants illegal aliens driver's licenses, and that automatically makes them registered to vote. Is this true? |
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Location: CA | A law was passed that allows illegal aliens the right to apply and take the test for a drivers license, but no person is just given one. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Edited by Grunt 2015-10-15 6:15 PM
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Location: California | Don't know about the voting, but yes to the drivers license. & Let's just say... there is a LOT more traffic in my area ever since. |
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BHW Resident Surgeon
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Obviously, the most important question, in my opinion, is whether or not they are automatically registered voters the minute they are issued a license. |
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BHW Resident Surgeon
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Obviously, the most important question, in my opinion, is whether or not they are automatically registered voters the minute they are issued a license. |
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Location: Oakdale, CA | I don't know yet! I wouldn't doubt it they give everything to illegal aliens well the southern ones. Its very frustrating................................... |
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| I think i heard that the law was there if they have a drivers licence they could vote. Thats bs. The democrats need voters. |
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| "California Becomes 2nd State To Automatically Register Voters." On October 11, California Governor Jerry Brown "approved legislation that automatically registers citizens to vote when they obtain or renew driver's licenses or state identification cards,"
In a move lawmakers hope will drive more Californians to the polls, Gov. Jerry Brown approved legislation that automatically registers citizens to vote when they obtain or renew driver's licenses or state identification cards.
The measure, known as the "New Motor Voter Act," was signed into law Saturday. California joins Oregon as the second state in the nation opting to register voters through its department of motor vehicles. Oregon passed its law in March.
California's Secretary of State Alex Padilla, who sponsored the bill, said in a statement the law will "make voter registration seamless" and it would amount to "the largest voter registration drive in the nation's history." |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | debbie2 - 2015-10-15 7:24 PM
"California Becomes 2nd State To Automatically Register Voters." On October 11, California Governor Jerry Brown "approved legislation that automatically registers citizens to vote when they obtain or renew driver's licenses or state identification cards,"
In a move lawmakers hope will drive more Californians to the polls, Gov. Jerry Brown approved legislation that automatically registers citizens to vote when they obtain or renew driver's licenses or state identification cards.
The measure, known as the "New Motor Voter Act," was signed into law Saturday. California joins Oregon as the second state in the nation opting to register voters through its department of motor vehicles. Oregon passed its law in March.
California's Secretary of State Alex Padilla, who sponsored the bill, said in a statement the law will "make voter registration seamless" and it would amount to "the largest voter registration drive in the nation's history."
So illegals would automatically be registered voters the minute they are issued a license? If that's true, where the hell is the outrage? |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Wow. A license to be a legal illegal. Talk about an 'end around'! It may be too late to rescue the people of this country from the politicians.
"What do you get for pretending the danger's not real...
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel".... Pink Floyd
Edited by komet. 2015-10-15 8:16 PM
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| Bear - 2015-10-15 7:53 PM
debbie2 - 2015-10-15 7:24 PM
"California Becomes 2nd State To Automatically Register Voters." On October 11, California Governor Jerry Brown "approved legislation that automatically registers citizens to vote when they obtain or renew driver's licenses or state identification cards,"
In a move lawmakers hope will drive more Californians to the polls, Gov. Jerry Brown approved legislation that automatically registers citizens to vote when they obtain or renew driver's licenses or state identification cards.
The measure, known as the "New Motor Voter Act," was signed into law Saturday. California joins Oregon as the second state in the nation opting to register voters through its department of motor vehicles. Oregon passed its law in March.
California's Secretary of State Alex Padilla, who sponsored the bill, said in a statement the law will "make voter registration seamless" and it would amount to "the largest voter registration drive in the nation's history."
So illegals would automatically be registered voters the minute they are issued a license? If that's true, where the hell is the outrage?
That's right. Hard to be outraged when you're too busy thinking about Lamar Odom or Dancing With The Stars... I love my state. But sometimes I want to divorce part of it. |
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| The key word is "citizens". Are they talking LEGAL citizens? Or any "citizen" who obtains a driver's license? The Dems have been pushing this agenda for along time. I remember discussing in high school how the Dems would get
the vote for illegals virtually guaranteeing Dems staying in power indefinitely because people will keep voting themselves a handout. .....And I just attended my cough...cough....40th class reunion. |
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| This is why the 2nd is needed... |
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Common Sense and then some
Location: So. California | This is the link to the bill. It only applies to legal US citizens, but we all know how well that works... 
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1461
Many provisions for "mistakes" not due to the applicant. This is yet another disaster from our idiot governor. One more reason to move from this state...
Edited by Anniemae 2015-10-16 12:36 AM
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| NOTE IT SEZ CALIFORNIA CITIZEN .... FEDERAL BILL LETS DRIVING AND VOTING REGISTRATION AT SAME TIME BY BILL CLINTON AND DEMOCRAT CONGRESS ..
The Legislature finds and declares all of the following:
(a) Voter registration is one of the biggest barriers to participation in our democracy.
(b) In 1993, Congress enacted the federal National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (52 U.S.C. Sec. 20501 et seq.), commonly known as the “Motor Voter Law,” with findings recognizing that the right of citizens to vote is a fundamental right; it is the duty of federal, state, and local governments to promote the exercise of the right to vote; and the primary purpose of the act is to increase the number of eligible citizens who register to vote.
(c) It is the intent of the Legislature to enact the California New Motor Voter Program to provide California citizens additional opportunities to participate in democracy through exercise of their fundamental right to vote.
BIG LOOP HOLE ON VOTING AND DOES NOT SHOW IF THEY ARE LEGAL OR ILLEGAL ... THEY GET A REGULAR DRIVERS LICENSE .. AND VOTING PRIVILEGES ETC ETC ..
PAY ATTENTION TO THE WORD .... NOTATION ... IN ITEM K .... AND THE LACK OF IDENTIFYING LEGALS OR ILLEGALS ON THE LICENSE INFORMATION .. .. IN ITEM D...
the following information associated with each person who submits an application for a driver’s license or identification card pursuant to Section 12800, 12815, or 13000 of the Vehicle Code, or who notifies the department of a change of address pursuant to Section 14600 of the Vehicle Code:
(A) Name.
(B) Date of birth.
(C) Either or both of the following, as contained in the department’s records:
(i) Residence address.
(ii) Mailing address.
(D) Digitized signature, as described in Section 12950.5 of the Vehicle Code.
(E) Telephone number, if available.
(F) Email address, if available.
(G) Language preference.
(H) Political party preference.
(I) Whether the person chooses to become a permanent vote by mail voter.
(J) Whether the person affirmatively declined to become registered to vote during a transaction with the department.
MEANS ...
CHECK MARK THE BOX OR NOD YOUR HEAD YES IF ASKED ...
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(K) A notation that the applicant has attested that he or she meets all voter eligibility requirements, including United States citizenship, specified in Section 2101.
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THIS IS THE ONLY MENTION OF BEING A UNITED STATES CITIZEN IN THE ENTIRE BILL ...
(L) Other information specified in regulations implementing this chapter.
(2) (A) The department may provide the records described in paragraph (1) to the Secretary of State before the Secretary of State certifies that all of the conditions set forth in subdivision (e) of this section have been satisfied. Records provided pursuant to this paragraph shall only be used for the purposes of outreach and education to eligible voters conducted by the Secretary of State.
(B) The Secretary shall provide materials created for purposes of outreach and education as described in this paragraph in languages other than English, as required by the federal Voting Rights Act of 1965 (52 U.S.C. Sec. 10503).
(c) The Secretary of State shall not sell, transfer or allow any third party access to the information acquired from the Department of Motor Vehicles pursuant to this chapter without approval of the department, except as permitted by this chapter and Section 2194.
NO SHARING
ILLEGAL INFORMATION WITH INS OR ICE OR OTHERS ...
(d) The department shall not electronically provide records of a person who applies for or is issued a driver’s license pursuant to Section 12801.9 of the Vehicle Code because he or she is unable to submit satisfactory proof that his or her presence in the United States is authorized under federal law.
Edited by BARRELHORSE USA 2015-10-16 5:21 AM
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