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Location: Phoenix | Has anyone dealt with a swollen urethra on a gelding? Sheath is normal size but inner "tip" is firm, swollen, with a little pus that is kind of solidified. I clean this thing pretty frequently; often enough to know that this is not the norm. Vet is coming out sometime this week so I'll make sure to flag her down. In the meantime, he still appears to be urinating (haven't seen the stream yet) and is still acting normal. I'm wondering if it's a bad reaction to Excalibur? Did that about 2 weeks ago and rinsed well.....I don't use Excalibur very often but I do rinse "it" out and check for beans almost weekly ...I was able to get "it" with some Vetericyn before he drew it up which made me feel a wee bit better as a horse parent.
Anyone else have a similar experience?
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| I have had three horse, one was a mare react to sheath cleaner, but not Excalibur. That all still up. If you are not getting under the foreskin, you are not getting the beans. If you are cleaning with Excalibur weekly you may be irritating the area. I clean about once every 4 months. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I agree you may be irritating the area by cleaning him to offten, I think once a week is way to much I check maybe every six months for beans and clean if they need it but if they dont need cleaning I dont mess with them. Theres two area's that needs checking for beans. |
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| this is good and entertaining
http://www.equusite.com/articles/health/healthSheathCleaning.shtml |
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| A good rule of thumb is about twice a year, everytime you clean him it's just telling his body to produce more gunk more often |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Think of it this way, when you clean it you are getting rid of the bad AND GOOD bacteria that grows. Cut back to twice a year and you shouldn't have any problems. Believe it or not, being too clean down there throws everything off.  |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | IRunOnFaith - 2016-10-06 11:30 AM Think of it this way, when you clean it you are getting rid of the bad AND GOOD bacteria that grows. Cut back to twice a year and you shouldn't have any problems. Believe it or not, being too clean down there throws everything off.
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Location: Phoenix | Wahhhhhhh it's my OCD!!! Ok vet is coming out tomorrow to inspect and give fall shots. No more cleaning until spring shots!!!! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | hammer_time - 2016-10-06 8:57 PM Wahhhhhhh it's my OCD!!! Ok vet is coming out tomorrow to inspect and give fall shots. No more cleaning until spring shots!!!!
LOL, thats funny  ...Has the swelling gone down any? |
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Location: Phoenix | UPDATE: it's a summer sore. Flies lay their eggs up in there. *puke* . I have to monitor it and scrape the little yellow granules off. I already had the steroid cream to apply on it from the last time he tried to run his neck down to the flesh. -_- I have pics of anyone wants to see it. BLECK it just looks so painful. |
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Location: TX | My vet said it will come back every year. Did you go ahead and worm him and then hit him a 10 days later. Last year was the first time I had ever dealt with this issue, but this was the horse that was sent to SD to an agent and was not taken proper care of. |
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Location: Texas | hammer_time - 2016-10-07 2:34 PM
UPDATE: it's a summer sore. Flies lay their eggs up in there. *puke* . I have to monitor it and scrape the little yellow granules off. I already had the steroid cream to apply on it from the last time he tried to run his neck down to the flesh. -_- I have pics of anyone wants to see it. BLECK it just looks so painful.
so kind of.. what really happens is the flies feed on moist areas or wounds, and they carry the harbonema larvae in their saliva. so its not fly eggs, its an actual parasite. That's why we use ivermectin in part of the protocol in treating them. |
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Location: Phoenix | casualdust07 - 2016-10-08 11:03 AM hammer_time - 2016-10-07 2:34 PM UPDATE: it's a summer sore. Flies lay their eggs up in there. *puke* . I have to monitor it and scrape the little yellow granules off. I already had the steroid cream to apply on it from the last time he tried to run his neck down to the flesh. -_- I have pics of anyone wants to see it. BLECK it just looks so painful. so kind of.. what really happens is the flies feed on moist areas or wounds, and they carry the harbonema larvae in their saliva. so its not fly eggs, its an actual parasite. That's why we use ivermectin in part of the protocol in treating them.
Oh yeah, That's right. I was going off what little I could remember from the vet. I read into it some more today and paraphrased, this is what I understand: the harbonoma is a stomach parasite, it lays eggs in the stomach, which turn to larvae and end up in manure, which gets picked up by flies, and then deposited onto a mucous-y area such as eyes/mouth/sheath. The larvae cannot survive in that environment so they die, but their remnants cause an inflammatory response.
I'm currently cleaning the area daily and applying Entederm, a steroid cream.
It sounds like my fecal-count based worming protocol might have revealed a weakness in the regimen because these won't show up on a fecal. I did just double dosed with Equimaxx at the end of aug and again in September to hopefully rid him of suspected threadworms. He is SO susceptible to fly irritation!!
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Location: Phoenix | Another update: shortly after diagnosis he developed a summer sore on the corner of his mouth!!! It was pretty gnarly and would not get any better no matter how much I flushed and cleansed it with gauze and betadine. The vet came out again and debrided it and after she got the habronema out of there it started rapidly healing. I imagine next week at the 3 week cleaning mark, it should be just about healed. My goodness!! |
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Location: Arkansas | Your boy is having a bad year!! Poor thing |
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