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vicstar38
Reg. Aug 2012
Posted 2016-12-22 11:08 PM
Subject: Soundness issues?



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Hello ! I just got a horse from auction some days he seems more off then others tracking right in gonna try to attach a video some how but if it does not download here's a discription when he trots there's a slight head bob and when he canters it's like he doesn't allow that leg to commit to the stride and both back legs almost go together I'm looking for some opinions and advice before I spend money on the vet thank you! Ok update it will not let me post a video and I really need help if anyone could send me a email I will be able to show you the video my email is [email protected] in really begging for some help thank you soooooo much !

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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2016-12-23 8:30 AM
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I would spend the money on the vet check, and ensure a flexion test, block, X-rays are complete. This may cost you a couple grand to get a thorough exam with diagnosis complete.

Be prepared the horse may not be fixable or very expensive to fix, and this is why the horse was sold at an auction.
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ThreeCorners
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2016-12-23 8:44 AM
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The cheapest route and where I would start going off your description is supplementing with Magnesium. Then see where you are. How old is this horse? Do you know his breeding and what he was used for previously? Obviously any kind of supplement wont take the place of a good lameness exam but I have seen many horses move like you are describing due to magnesium defiency.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-12-23 10:13 AM
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Yep I like the magnesium suggestion that ThreeCorners made, I would start him on it and then I would find the best Chiro you have around you and have the Chiro check him out.. 
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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2016-12-23 11:04 AM
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vicstar38 - 2016-12-22 11:08 PM Hello ! I just got a horse from auction some days he seems more off then others tracking right in gonna try to attach a video some how but if it does not download here's a discription when he trots there's a slight head bob and when he canters it's like he doesn't allow that leg to commit to the stride and both back legs almost go together I'm looking for some opinions and advice before I spend money on the vet thank you! Ok update it will not let me post a video and I really need help if anyone could send me a email I will be able to show you the video my email is [email protected] in really begging for some help thank you soooooo much !

Why don't you want to take the horse to the vet?

Sounds like he is a sore, and needs one. 


It could be a hind end issue, or it could be a front end issue, or both. It is always buyer beware when you buy a horse at an auction.

I'd take the horse for a lameness evaluation as well as a chiropractic adjustment. You have to start somewhere to figure out what's wrong. There may be a reason why he was sold at an auction....

 
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jewishprincess
Reg. May 2013
Posted 2016-12-23 12:33 PM
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It could be simple or a lot going on. hard to tell by your description. I would start with a good chiropractor. They can spot lameness, tell you where. May or may not get a why. But if you can narrow down the issue that's a start. They can also feel if it's a muscle/ligament/or joint issue. But it's cheaper than a vet usually and they actually work on your horse, where as I feel vets diagnose and drug. But if it's a joint issue such as arthritis, that won't be fixed by a chiro. You'll need to see a vet to get a good maintenance program going. But I would start with a chiro and go from there. Lameness issues suck! I'm going thru it myself. Good luck and hope its a simple fix. Kudos for rescuing!
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2016-12-24 1:58 AM
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What did you pay for the crippled horse??

That is the basis you use before spending a dime on him ...
his pedigree is not going to heal him ..

When the price is too low and auctioneer is working hard to get a bid
... you should know the experienced bidders eyes picked up on his
problems and did not make a bid ... and now you know the reason
he was sold.

By him doing the bunny hopping in the rear end ... could be anything from
his pelvic, stifles, hocks or all the parts from ankle to hoof ... with any
of these being a serious concern of never healing ..

https://www.google.com/search?q=horse+tendons+in+feet&biw=1097&bih=4...

Just brush him up and run him back thru the sale and try to get your
money back and if you lose money ... chalk it up to getting some experience
without running up a vet bill .....
OH ... IF ONLY HORSES COULD TALK ...
lol

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RunNitroRun
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2016-12-24 7:23 PM
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Get a good lameness vet. You could give him all the supplements in the world but if you don't know the cause of the problem you could either a) start masking the problem until you have a major issue or b) develop new problems related to what you give him.

Asking for advice on here for lameness issues you're going to get everything from front end to hind end and evening in between suggestions. While all are helpful and someone may hit the nail exactly on the head you may also spend forever spinning your wheels and letting that horse get worse and worse.

Save your money and get a vet. Explain the problem and if your tight for money explain that and ask what tests they suggest first (likely overall physical and lameness exam) the costs and if they have payment plans available.

Don't risk getting hurt while you try to figure out what's going on and don't risk making the potential injury worse.
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RunNitroRun
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2016-12-24 7:24 PM
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Get a good lameness vet. You could give him all the supplements in the world but if you don't know the cause of the problem you could either a) start masking the problem until you have a major issue or b) develop new problems related to what you give him.

Asking for advice on here for lameness issues you're going to get everything from front end to hind end and evening in between suggestions. While all are helpful and someone may hit the nail exactly on the head you may also spend forever spinning your wheels and letting that horse get worse and worse.

Save your money and get a vet. Explain the problem and if your tight for money explain that and ask what tests they suggest first (likely overall physical and lameness exam) the costs and if they have payment plans available.

Don't risk getting hurt while you try to figure out what's going on and don't risk making the potential injury worse.
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2016-12-24 11:53 PM
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Give him a chance with some of the suggestions you've received on here. You rescued him, so I think you'll do the right thing instead of running him back thru a sale "to get your money back". Glad there are folks like you that give those second chances
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-12-25 1:24 AM
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Chandler's Mom - 2016-12-24 11:53 PM Give him a chance with some of the suggestions you've received on here. You rescued him, so I think you'll do the right thing instead of running him back thru a sale "to get your money back". Glad there are folks like you that give those second chances

Ditto,  
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canchaserdelux
Reg. Oct 2007
Posted 2016-12-25 1:38 PM
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Best of luck to you.

I will not disclose how much money I have spent on lameness that we have been dealing with 4 months.

My bit of advice is go to trusted vet and if they recommend an MRI to get it done. I wish I would have done MRI when my vet recommended it. Now we are looking at another six months of rehab. Praying he is healing and comes back 100% sound.

If there is anyway you can contact the owners and maybe they would transfer the vet records to you which will help you decide what to do. Especially if they know you trying to help the horse, and give him a chance. Who knows maybe they financially could not take him to vet, or possibly they did and could afford rehab him.

One of best friends got a real nice horse because the owners did not what to rehab him.



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Vickie
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2016-12-25 7:30 PM
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I would start with a good farrier.  If that doesn't find anything go to a lameness vet, you need x-rays. 
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Buckles
Reg. Feb 2010
Posted 2016-12-26 7:51 AM
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"When he canters it's like he doesn't allow that leg to commit to the stride and both back legs almost go together"

Pretty typical for a horse with pssm to canter like this. Will also cause the on/off lameness.
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Rockyroad
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-12-26 2:59 PM
Subject: RE: Soundness issues?



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Buckles - 2016-12-26 6:51 AM "When he canters it's like he doesn't allow that leg to commit to the stride and both back legs almost go together" Pretty typical for a horse with pssm to canter like this. Will also cause the on/off lameness.

 Bingo!  Would you also describe it as "bunny hopping" in the rear?  MAJOR sign of PSSM, along w/the "off & on lameness" and/or unable to pinpoint "where" it is.
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