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| Great topic! I haven't had any to sale prep yet but can't wait to see responses and learn how others go about it!  | |
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Location: Oklahoma | I can tell you what we did for the TB's | |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Food and winstrol
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Location: Texas! | I used to work for a cutting horse outfit and we sale prepped all the yearlings and some of the riding horses. Depending on when the sale was we brought them into the barn a month prior winter was slinkies and blankets anytime it was below 50 degrees. Groomed 6 days a week and put on the walker 6 days a week just walking and trotting. There was no real change to the diet unless one had special needs or really needed an extra boost. | |
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| Send off to the pros....they can swim, groom, and deal with their yearling tantrums
But if I had too:
-Power Pack right off the bat
-Full Bucket Probiotics after
-either daily wormer, some supplement company's detox, or diatomcious earth for a month, your choice of brand
-recommended by weight, get you a weight tape and measure your baby, Ultium Growth add Outlast for ulcers prevent and to keep
them eating everyday
-Those large farms are giving ventipulmin/clenbuterol to "help with respiratory issues" during this time (big emphasis on those air
quotes there) *rolls eyes* it is what it is tho
- Best quality alfalfa split into half a flake am/pm and fee choice local high quality grass hay available at all times
- Swim, pony, equiciser and usually a steriod of your choosing
Its hard for most ppl to be able to prep like a large farm it's money well spent to send them off.
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 Sorry I don't have any advice
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Location: Sunnyland Florida | runfastturnsmooth - 2018-06-03 1:33 PM Send off to the pros....they can swim, groom, and deal with their yearling tantrums But if I had too: -Power Pack right off the bat -Full Bucket Probiotics after -either daily wormer, some supplement company's detox, or diatomcious earth for a month, your choice of brand -recommended by weight, get you a weight tape and measure your baby, Ultium Growth add Outlast for ulcers prevent and to keep them eating everyday -Those large farms are giving ventipulmin/clenbuterol to "help with respiratory issues" during this time (big emphasis on those air quotes there) *rolls eyes* it is what it is tho - Best quality alfalfa split into half a flake am/pm and fee choice local high quality grass hay available at all times - Swim, pony, equiciser and usually a steriod of your choosing Its hard for most ppl to be able to prep like a large farm it's money well spent to send them off.
Yes, I have seen people do the steroids and other stuff to sale prep. Please don't do this folks. When the buyer gets the horse home and the apple butt goes flat and the fake muscles fall off, you WILL look bad and I will talk about it to others buying from you.
Test for steroids. That's my new policy, since this has happened to me.
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| Runaway - 2018-06-03 1:23 PM
runfastturnsmooth - 2018-06-03 1:33 PM Send off to the pros....they can swim, groom, and deal with their yearling tantrums But if I had too: -Power Pack right off the bat -Full Bucket Probiotics after -either daily wormer, some supplement company's detox, or diatomcious earth for a month, your choice of brand -recommended by weight, get you a weight tape and measure your baby, Ultium Growth add Outlast for ulcers prevent and to keep them eating everyday -Those large farms are giving ventipulmin/clenbuterol to "help with respiratory issues" during this time (big emphasis on those air quotes there) *rolls eyes* it is what it is tho - Best quality alfalfa split into half a flake am/pm and fee choice local high quality grass hay available at all times - Swim, pony, equiciser and usually a steriod of your choosing Its hard for most ppl to be able to prep like a large farm it's money well spent to send them off.
Yes, I have seen people do the steroids and other stuff to sale prep. Please don't do this folks. When the buyer gets the horse home and the apple butt goes flat and the fake muscles fall off, you WILL look bad and I will talk about it to others buying from you.Â
Test for steroids. That's my new policy, since this has happened to me.Â
Going off a steroid like winstrol or equipose does not do this as bad as one would think.
BUUUTTTT going off of ventipulmin or clenbuterol does....this is way ppl buy a prospect OTT and it looks like **** in a week.
It's mainly about keeping their calorie intake up. They were in hard work plus getting a drug that caused them to cut that fat into muscle. When ppl who have no clue about this get them and feed like a scoop of strategy am/pm that horse got cut almost 75% of the calories it was used to consuming....so thats why your muscled up horse goes to looking like a ulcer poster child in a week's time or so.
Edited by runfastturnsmooth 2018-06-03 1:34 PM
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| Runaway - 2018-06-03 1:23 PM
runfastturnsmooth - 2018-06-03 1:33 PM Send off to the pros....they can swim, groom, and deal with their yearling tantrums But if I had too: -Power Pack right off the bat -Full Bucket Probiotics after -either daily wormer, some supplement company's detox, or diatomcious earth for a month, your choice of brand -recommended by weight, get you a weight tape and measure your baby, Ultium Growth add Outlast for ulcers prevent and to keep them eating everyday -Those large farms are giving ventipulmin/clenbuterol to "help with respiratory issues" during this time (big emphasis on those air quotes there) *rolls eyes* it is what it is tho - Best quality alfalfa split into half a flake am/pm and fee choice local high quality grass hay available at all times - Swim, pony, equiciser and usually a steriod of your choosing Its hard for most ppl to be able to prep like a large farm it's money well spent to send them off.
Yes, I have seen people do the steroids and other stuff to sale prep. Please don't do this folks. When the buyer gets the horse home and the apple butt goes flat and the fake muscles fall off, you WILL look bad and I will talk about it to others buying from you.Â
Test for steroids. That's my new policy, since this has happened to me.Â
Agree with you. It’s BS what some do to these sale horses and they absolutely deserve the bad mouthing they get when these horses crater. | |
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Sorry I don't have any advice
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Location: Sunnyland Florida | runfastturnsmooth - 2018-06-03 2:31 PM Runaway - 2018-06-03 1:23 PM runfastturnsmooth - 2018-06-03 1:33 PM Send off to the pros....they can swim, groom, and deal with their yearling tantrums But if I had too: -Power Pack right off the bat -Full Bucket Probiotics after -either daily wormer, some supplement company's detox, or diatomcious earth for a month, your choice of brand -recommended by weight, get you a weight tape and measure your baby, Ultium Growth add Outlast for ulcers prevent and to keep them eating everyday -Those large farms are giving ventipulmin/clenbuterol to "help with respiratory issues" during this time (big emphasis on those air quotes there) *rolls eyes* it is what it is tho - Best quality alfalfa split into half a flake am/pm and fee choice local high quality grass hay available at all times - Swim, pony, equiciser and usually a steriod of your choosing Its hard for most ppl to be able to prep like a large farm it's money well spent to send them off.
Yes, I have seen people do the steroids and other stuff to sale prep. Please don't do this folks. When the buyer gets the horse home and the apple butt goes flat and the fake muscles fall off, you WILL look bad and I will talk about it to others buying from you.
Test for steroids. That's my new policy, since this has happened to me.
Going off a steroid like winstrol or equipose does not do this as bad as one would think. BUUUTTTT going off of ventipulmin or clenbuterol does....this is way ppl buy a prospect OTT and it looks like **** in a week. It's mainly about keeping their calorie intake up. They were in hard work plus getting a drug that caused them to cut that fat into muscle. When ppl who have no clue about this get them and feed like a scoop of strategy am/pm that horse got cut almost 75% of the calories it was used to consuming....so thats why your muscled up horse goes to looking like a ulcer poster child in a week's time or so.
I get that. The issue I have is giving any horse steroids to make it appear to be something it is not (build-wise), not to mention that steroids are not good for them. My purchases came home to high calorie feeds (Renew Gold, Seminole DynaSport) and the best Alfalfa available, not "Strategy". And, they were worked and kept in shape, just a totally different build than they were at purchase, the before & after pics are remarkable. Sold both of them - for what they really were, and for less money, LOL.
My horse sale prep consists of great feed and the best hays, exercise and supplements and minerals where needed. What you see is what you get.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Anobolics do not magically create muscle.
Doesn't work that way, doesn't work that way all.
And Renew Gold is a supplement not a feed. | |
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Sorry I don't have any advice
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Location: Sunnyland Florida | 1DSoon - 2018-06-03 3:38 PM Anobolics do not magically create muscle.
Doesn't work that way, doesn't work that way all.
And Renew Gold is a supplement not a feed.
Anabolic Steroids
Submitted by EquiMed Staff on Thu, 05/07/2009 - 1:21pmBrand Names - Equipoise (Boldenone)
- Winstrol V (Stanozolol)
Description  Anabolic steroids are a class of drugs that are related to the male hormone, testosterone. These drugs help rebuild tissues that are weakened due to disease, injury, or surgery. Anabolic steroids are used in equine medicine for building weight and muscle mass, and to alleviate anemia. In the race horse industry, many consider the use of anabolic steroids as a means to improve speed and win more races. Recent scientific studies show that anabolic steroids have not proven to be of benefit to the horse. These studies are at odds with the conventional thinking and anecdotal evidence that supports their use in the performance horse industries, specifically racing. Because of the stigma associated with the use of anabolic steroids in human athletes, there is much higher scrutiny in the non-therapeutic use of these drugs as performance-enhancers. An excellent technical paper on the use of anabolic steroids to improve performance in horses is “Pharmacokinetics of Boldenone and Stanozolol and the Results of Quantification of Anabolic and Androgenic Steroids in Race Horses and Non Race Horses,” by Soma et al ( Journal of Veterinary Pharmacology and Therapeutics, 2007 ). Anabolic steroids are persistent drugs with effects that last up to several weeks following the last dose. As prescription drugs subject to the Anabolic Steroid Control Act, federal law restricts the use of these drugs without orders from a licensed veterinarian. Usage Anabolic steroids such as stanozolol and boldenone are synthetic derivatives of the male hormone, testosterone. They are labeled for usage with debilitated or weakened animals, and are prescribed to stimulate appetite, increase weight gain, strength, and vigor. Dosage and Administration  Anabolic Steroids MethodDosage (click row for calculator )ConcentrationPeriodDuration Intramuscular injection0.5 mg/lb Boldenone50 mg/mlEvery 3 weeks1 or 2 treatments Intramuscular injection25 mg/100lb Stanozolol50 mg/mlEvery weekUp to 4 weeks Notes: - Federal law restricts this drug to use by or on the order of a licensed veterinarian.
- Not for use in horses intended for food.
- Calculator is for educational purposes only. Follow your veterinarian's instructions regarding use of this, or any medication.
Side Effects Anabolic steroids in equines can cause increased aggressive and dominant behavior. They can also impair fertility and cause fillies and mares to show masculine behaviors. In stallions, anabolic steroids may shrink the size of the testicles and lead to lower sperm production. In young horses, anabolic steroids may affect normal bone growth. Precautions Anabolic steroids should be used with caution in breeding animals. There are indications that these drugs should not be used with animals that have heart, liver, or kidney problems. Stanozolol and boldernone are FDA-approved for use in horses. They are prescription-only drugs and controlled substances. U.S. federal law restricts the use of these drugs by or on the lawful written or oral order of a licensed veterinarian. Anabolic steroids are prohibited in any drug-free competition. It is important to check the rules with each specific regulatory group. Interactions Anabolic steroids may increase the effect of anticoagulants, such as warfarin. Overdose No specific information on overdose is found. Images | |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Runaway - 2018-06-03 5:06 PM 1DSoon - 2018-06-03 3:38 PM Anobolics do not magically create muscle.
Doesn't work that way, doesn't work that way all.
And Renew Gold is a supplement not a feed. Anabolic Steroids
Submitted by EquiMed Staff on Thu, 05/07/2009 - 1:21pm
Brand Names
- Equipoise (Boldenone)
- Winstrol V (Stanozolol)
Description
Anabolic steroids are a class of drugs that are related to the male hormone, testosterone. These drugs help rebuild tissues that are weakened due to disease, injury, or surgery. Anabolic steroids are used in equine medicine for building weight and muscle mass, and to alleviate anemia. In the race horse industry, many consider the use of anabolic steroids as a means to improve speed and win more races.
Recent scientific studies show that anabolic steroids have not proven to be of benefit to the horse. These studies are at odds with the conventional thinking and anecdotal evidence that supports their use in the performance horse industries, specifically racing. Because of the stigma associated with the use of anabolic steroids in human athletes, there is much higher scrutiny in the non-therapeutic use of these drugs as performance-enhancers.
An excellent technical paper on the use of anabolic steroids to improve performance in horses is “Pharmacokinetics of Boldenone and Stanozolol and the Results of Quantification of Anabolic and Androgenic Steroids in Race Horses and Non Race Horses,” by Soma et al ( Journal of Veterinary Pharmacology and Therapeutics, 2007 ).
Anabolic steroids are persistent drugs with effects that last up to several weeks following the last dose. As prescription drugs subject to the Anabolic Steroid Control Act, federal law restricts the use of these drugs without orders from a licensed veterinarian.
Usage
Anabolic steroids such as stanozolol and boldenone are synthetic derivatives of the male hormone, testosterone. They are labeled for usage with debilitated or weakened animals, and are prescribed to stimulate appetite, increase weight gain, strength, and vigor.
Dosage and Administration Anabolic Steroids
MethodDosage
(click row for calculator )ConcentrationPeriodDuration
Intramuscular injection0.5 mg/lb Boldenone50 mg/mlEvery 3 weeks1 or 2 treatments
Intramuscular injection25 mg/100lb Stanozolol50 mg/mlEvery weekUp to 4 weeks
Notes:
- Federal law restricts this drug to use by or on the order of a licensed veterinarian.
- Not for use in horses intended for food.
- Calculator is for educational purposes only. Follow your veterinarian's instructions regarding use of this, or any medication.
Side Effects
Anabolic steroids in equines can cause increased aggressive and dominant behavior. They can also impair fertility and cause fillies and mares to show masculine behaviors. In stallions, anabolic steroids may shrink the size of the testicles and lead to lower sperm production. In young horses, anabolic steroids may affect normal bone growth.
Precautions
Anabolic steroids should be used with caution in breeding animals. There are indications that these drugs should not be used with animals that have heart, liver, or kidney problems.
Stanozolol and boldernone are FDA-approved for use in horses. They are prescription-only drugs and controlled substances. U.S. federal law restricts the use of these drugs by or on the lawful written or oral order of a licensed veterinarian.
Anabolic steroids are prohibited in any drug-free competition. It is important to check the rules with each specific regulatory group.
Interactions
Anabolic steroids may increase the effect of anticoagulants, such as warfarin.
Overdose
No specific information on overdose is found.
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I know you probably think you proved me wrong.
But you did not. You just proved my piont.
Gotcha's only work, when they actually are a gotcha.
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Extreme Veteran
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| 1DSoon - 2018-06-03 2:38 PM
 Anobolics do not magically create muscle.Â
Doesn't work that way, doesn't work that way all.Â
And Renew Gold is a supplement not a feed.Â
I'm gonna actually have to agree they don't create muscle what they do is turn what would otherwise be fat into muscle.
Its not like you give a skinny horse a compounded or genetric clen and it turns to muscle but you take one thats chunky put it on clen and put it in work and you'll end up with a pretty decent looking sucker.
Babies on clen equipose windstrol or some people use the steroid insert made for cattle....none are just going to create muscle. All just to enhance what a horse naturally has but you take something on on this stuff and put just on a maintenance regular normal care routine then these suckers just drop and look like an ulcer horse. Some horses plain out and simple don't have the muscle and when put on all the extras look fat and dumpy, some look like a future all american winner, and some if given the correct care don't change much at all.
Very few ppl feed like a sale prep horse has been fed. Nothing against anyone's program or the quality of what they are feeding or anything but it is very hard to duplicate years of perfected prep programs. There is a reason ppl send off to these farms and its results plain and simple. Financially I can't duplicate what they do at a reasonable price for 3-4 yearlings what they can do vs paying them. I've worked for them and you can't duplicate their process at home unless you have an amazing facility as well.
Lets be real most ppl just need to feed one up more, blanket, give some extras, worm well, and stall them....especially for a barrel horse sale. Barrel ppl want that natural lanky well groomed look and they are happy.
You bring a normal prepped race horse to a sale like that tho and yours will look like a collie dog next to those beefed up babies. Most trainers and buyers will consider them behind the curve so buying them would mean you'll be playing catch up.
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Location: where buffalo run across the football field | I've sales prepped TB yearlings and mares the last 4 years and because the Brits have anti-drug rules that keep them from importing horses who have had certain drugs (and they'll test for said drugs), our horses get no chemical enhancements (aka drugs). The yearlings go on the walker for an hour a day and walk and jog both ways (the amount of time depends on the group of horses they are in) and swim either two or three times a week. The walk to the pool is a little over a quarter mile round trip so that is kind of their "handwalking" time and they'll do at least 2 laps of the pool every time they swim. They're also turned out for 12-14 hours every night. They get fed between 3-5 quarts twice a day depending on the horse and some even get three feedings a day.
Broodmares and weanlings are a bit different as they only get handwalked and they are turned out basically 24/7 outside of the handwalking and coming in to get fed, mostly because they don't have to be as prepped as the yearlings. | |
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