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Location: Pacific Northwest | I have a bad habit of my hand getting too high during a run, mainly during the turn. For the first time, during my last run, my reins flipped over my horses head on the first barrel. I’m pretty sure it was a fluke but I’m worried it will happen again.
My hands are NOT high during every day riding. I often do slow work for myself and over exaggerate keeping my hands low, as in, I literally set them on my horses neck and don’t touch her. But it never fails when I’m running suddenly my hands are by her ears. I’m pretty sure that played a part in the reins flipping. It’s like she literally just turned through my reins.
And advice on 1) how to keep my reins from flipping, I know I’ve read about some sort of string set up? And 2) get my brain and hands to be on the same page and keep them down. |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I just bumped up a thread for you about this same question that you are asking about. Its the Ed Wright thread..  |
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 Stinky Cat Owner
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Location: Oregon | Check out BoomaReins! I brought them in thinking for trail riders and youth riders, but the MAJORITY of my website customers have been barrel racers and mounted shooters! They are pretty handy. |
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| STOP trying to neck rein your horse around the barrels …
Keep the inside rein shorter and use it to hold your horse off the barrel
and to bump his nose movements to complete the turn …
This way he can't duck his nose and both reins end up on one side of
his head.
The two handed run to first and two handed transition to 2nd and 3rd
squares up your hands//shoulders and your horse.
And allows you to reach up and shorten the inside rein with one hand
while moving the other to the saddle horn …
Sherry Cervi and most of your NFR riders are masters at this technique …
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| One thing is to shorten your reins. They shouldn't be comfortable to ride around in (a pain, I know). That should keep them from flipping.
It's a factor of being forward on your horse hustling. When you go to one hand, the rest of the rein is flopping, so can flip over their head. Try to rotate your hips forward for the run, but not so much your whole upper body. Makes it a lot harder to sit and brace for the turn if you are too far forward. |
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| I had the same issue- I throw my hand forward kind of like Ed Wright taught. Look up Bronc Fanning on facebook. I love his reins, they allow me to ride the way I need to without losing my reins. He braids around a cable so the reins are stiffer, the reins are round with adjustable knots. I will try to add a picture on here.
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 Too Skinny
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Location: LA Lower Alabama | Maybe leaning too far forward as well? Or pulling more than guiding around the turn?
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I'm Cooler Offline
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Location: Pacific Northwest | Thank you everyone for the advice! I watched my video again and I can see now exactly how I did it. At the same time as having my hand way too high I also brought it across her neck when we turned; as we started to come around I pretty much snatched my hand back over. The whole movement and her momentum was timed exactly right that her nose bent and my hand pulled the reins right off her head.
I’m running tomorrow and all I’m going to care about are keeping my stupid hands low!
The annoying part is my mare requires no help in her turns. If I would just sit and lower my hand, everything would be fine, and I KNOW this in my head and yet I still try to “make” her turn.
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  Sock eating dog owner
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | There are some gimmicks you can try. 1. Short reins so they are 3 inches in front of your horn when you hold them. 2. Put a bicycle tube over the neck oF your horse ,have the reins underneath it so you only have a choice to keep your hands low. |
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| I have suede covered reins-love them. My gelding use to flip his head before we got his feet straightened out and these reins are not floppy and never went over his head.
https://www.statelinetack.com/item/weaver-leather-suede-covered-barrel-rein/WDW20%20TURQS/?srccode=GPSLT&gclid=CjwKCAjwo87YBRBgEiwAI1LkqaZfxAcveOw0OCU1IUCd_0SjUor-g_7NmBR6uvO4a8LLiU_D01JWZRoCdqwQAvD_BwE&kwid=productads-adid%5E185616501248-device%5Et-plaid%5E346665174958-sku%5E139955-adType%5EPLA |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | cow pie - 2018-06-03 6:26 AM
There are some gimmicks you can try. 1. Short reins so they are 3 inches in front of your horn when you hold them. 2. Put a bicycle tube over the neck oF your horse ,have the reins underneath it so you only have a choice to keep your hands low.
That might be a good idea! I think I’m going to try it at home and see what it feels like and then try it at the next race.
I clocked .5 off what I usually do at this arena but I concentrated solely on trying to keep my hands low. They came up a few times but for the most part in my turns they were lower than they usually are. |
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 Keeper of the King Snake
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Location: Dubach, LA | Take your snaps off and attach reins to bridle. The swing in the snaps causes the flip. Thanks, Uncle Ed. |
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Duct Tape Bikini Girl
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| I have experienced this same problem. It was happening on my first barrel, leaving me with reins on the outside of my horse's neck for my second and third barrels. Not a pleasant feeling at all!
I watched my videos, asked for opinions, and thought it out. I realized I was holding the rein too far down towards the bit. This created enough slack for the rein to bounce over during my first turn. At the time, I was using nylon, braided reins with snaps to the bit. I have changed to heavily oiled, soft leather reins with no snaps to the bit. It has not happened again. I really think my hand being too far down the rein was the main problem. |
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I'm Cooler Offline
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Location: Pacific Northwest | CanCan - 2018-06-03 9:39 PM
Take your snaps off and attach reins to bridle. The swing in the snaps causes the flip. Thanks, Uncle Ed.
No snaps (: just leather reins attached to the bit. I only use snaps on my work reins for easily switching between work bridles. But both my barrel horses have bridles with reins attached. I think one set is even Ed Wright reins. Maybe I should try switching to running my mare with those reins, I think they’ve got a heavier feel than the ones I have now on her bridle. |
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Location: Northern California | Shorten your reins. As far as hands too high, watch some of the NFR runs.. don't see their hands low. . .jus' sayin' . .  |
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 Reaching for the stars....
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| mpindixie - 2018-06-01 11:11 AM I had the same issue- I throw my hand forward kind of like Ed Wright taught. Look up Bronc Fanning on facebook. I love his reins, they allow me to ride the way I need to without losing my reins. He braids around a cable so the reins are stiffer, the reins are round with adjustable knots. I will try to add a picture on here.
Yes! You can't lose, flip, or reach wrong on these reins! I just got mine and rode in my second show. NO middle of the rein grab - which had been a growing problem for me starting last year. One hand holds the shape so the rein does not move for the other to have to find. |
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