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Miss Not Exciting
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Location: Ft Worth TX | I have a gelding for sale i am selling. I need the money to buy a house. I had a young pre teen-aged girl try him on saturday, she did good on him but seemed a little strong for her, she handled it but he still bullied her IMO. Shes a very petite girl, one of the smartest kids i have had try a horse as far as horse smarts. I was impressed with her. She even walked trotted and loped him and stopped bareback. I did not think they would call back and actually be interested- they did and they want to move forward with a pre-purchase. However this same horse was an utter *ss yesterday for my husband who breaks horses to ride. he did not want to turn all the sudden, did not want to stop nice, wanted to go for the gate, but after he was warmed up he did great and was his normal self. This is the families first time buying a horse. I need the money, but my gut is telling me to offer some other options on the table. I told them he was chargey and a bit bullheaded yesterday...
So I was thinking of offering these options, tell me what you think.
1. I know of a 15yo gelding that is a teacher but can clock in the barrel pen while being safe- hes more money but I think would be perfect for her. Hes not mine- just a horse I know of and have seen the 11yo girl run him.
2. Knock off the price for them to send the horse to training and for the daughter to have more lessons.
3. Include more ridding in the price.
4. Have them try him a second time (I am trying to sell him to buy a house... so trying to sell quick)
4. or just tell him hes not going to work...
When I sell one I generally have a good feeling about the sale but this being their first horse- and a kid selling them this horse is just not setting ok with me right now. I want them to be HAPPY and horse ownership to be a good thing not bad like it is for so many first time buyers... I know he will pass pre purchase thats the least of my worries, and I do have other interested parties in him that are more experienced. I just don't know what to do or offer...
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I just read the headlines
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| I would go with offering to give them the contact number for the 15 year old horse, explaining that he still has a lot of useful years left and when she outgrows him, he will still be useful for another kid. If they don't go for that, then have them come try your horse again and see what happens. Actually, you could run through all the options with them, explaining the issues you have for the horse/rider combination. Good luck!  |
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Miss Not Exciting
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Location: Ft Worth TX | thats what i was thinking. This gelding is off the track- another concern of mine. She likes to race and play when ridding with her friends- i have never put him in that situation and the horse can run. |
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Location: Deep South | My sister and I rode MANY horses that looking back now were definitely too much for us then, or were not perfectly suited for our needs. They made us seek out help from people knowledgeable in barrel racing, they made us better riders, better horsemen. We needed that with our inexperience. We would have never sought out the help had we had automatic babysitters.
My suggestion is to offer them the horse if they are interested, but only if you can be there for the next 6 months to a year for tune-ups and help as needed. |
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I just read the headlines
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| Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-01-12 8:56 AM
thats what i was thinking. This gelding is off the track- another concern of mine. She likes to race and play when ridding with her friends- i have never put him in that situation and the horse can run.
Haha! I remember my young days and I was alot like her. Thank goodness my parents got me a good old ranch mare for my first horse. It really sounds like at this time she may not be a fit for this horse, doesn't it. I understand your trepidation and commend you on your desire to do the right thing for her and your horse. You will make the right decision, I am sure. |
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Location: South Georgia | I think I'd just ask for them to come try him one more time. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | I have learned that most times, in these scenerio's things just get worse. I would give them the number to the more steady horse and wait for a more suitable buyer. I would, and I know you would hate to get the call that the horse isnt working out and the girl got hurt. |
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 Cute Little Imp
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Location: N Texas | Some horses and riders just click. My sister recently sold a horse that she just didn't click with. She sent him to a trainer friend for a tune-up and to help sell him. A young teenage girl came to look at him one day because she was looking for a step-up horse. Before the girl and her mom got there, the trainer friend was riding the horse and he was being BAD! He was spooking and had a major attitude. The girl got there and they weren't sure how it would go, but that horse turned into a total angel and was perfect for her. She came out and rode him again a different day and he was perfect for her again. She ended up buying him and they've really bonded and he's been doing really good for her.
I've seen other horses that acted up when adults rode them, but were totally different for kids. Some horses are just that way.
If she comes and rides again and she can handle him, then you need to let them decide if they're a good fit. Sometimes a rider needs a challenging horse to become a better rider. They could end up being a perfect team :) |
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 Own It and Move On
Location: The edge of no where | Listen to your gut. |
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Location: East Texas | Gunner11 - 2015-01-12 9:56 AM
Some horses and riders just click. My sister recently sold a horse that she just didn't click with. She sent him to a trainer friend for a tune-up and to help sell him. A young teenage girl came to look at him one day because she was looking for a step-up horse. Before the girl and her mom got there, the trainer friend was riding the horse and he was being BAD! He was spooking and had a major attitude. The girl got there and they weren't sure how it would go, but that horse turned into a total angel and was perfect for her. She came out and rode him again a different day and he was perfect for her again. She ended up buying him and they've really bonded and he's been doing really good for her.
I've seen other horses that acted up when adults rode them, but were totally different for kids. Some horses are just that way.
If she comes and rides again and she can handle him, then you need to let them decide if they're a good fit. Sometimes a rider needs a challenging horse to become a better rider. They could end up being a perfect team :)
This happened with the barrel horse my daughter rides now. When we showed up to ride him the seller was nervous/anxious. I asked him what was going on and he said a woman came and tried him the night before and the horse was bad. I said "Let's put my daughter on him and see what happens". Turns out he was a gem. That was two years ago and many rides later, and they are great together.
I would tell them your opinion and let them make their own decisions. They are inexperienced and are lucky to get someone who will give them honest advice. I wish I would have someone one help me like that when we bought our first couple of horses. |
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 Don't Wanna Make This Awkward
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Location: Texas | Be honest with them. Offer them all the options, and see what they want to do. |
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Location: Buffalo, TX | Gunner11 - 2015-01-12 9:56 AM Some horses and riders just click. My sister recently sold a horse that she just didn't click with. She sent him to a trainer friend for a tune-up and to help sell him. A young teenage girl came to look at him one day because she was looking for a step-up horse. Before the girl and her mom got there, the trainer friend was riding the horse and he was being BAD! He was spooking and had a major attitude. The girl got there and they weren't sure how it would go, but that horse turned into a total angel and was perfect for her. She came out and rode him again a different day and he was perfect for her again. She ended up buying him and they've really bonded and he's been doing really good for her. I've seen other horses that acted up when adults rode them, but were totally different for kids. Some horses are just that way. If she comes and rides again and she can handle him, then you need to let them decide if they're a good fit. Sometimes a rider needs a challenging horse to become a better rider. They could end up being a perfect team :)
Absolutely....in 1985 we had 2 futurity horses, a mare and gelding (both were really nice)...one was going to be sold as a 5 yr. old...the mare placed a couple times and I had my choice of which one to keep, so I picked her....Sammy Andrews was told about the gelding for his 12 yr. old step daughter and when she came to run him at a jackpot, we told her mom, Carolyn, that we were very worried that a 12 yr. old girl and a 5 yr. old unseasoned horse were not going to be a match...they bought him anyway...the little girl was Neesa Russell, and the horse was "Easy"...the rest is history...they won just about everything they went to, so I know it can work if there is a bond between the two.... |
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Location: Oakdale, CA | thats a hard one! How old is the horse? I would have them come ride him again or maybe at a race if hes at that point? If its a colt well colts can be bull headed or colty, If its an older horse thats not going to change........
give them a chance but tell them like you told us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cute Little Imp
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Location: N Texas | Just curious, is this a 2009 gray gelding? |
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Location: Canada | Honestly I'd have her come back and ride him again and chat with the parents. I wouldn't knock money off for training because honestly the horse will probably never go. Have them ride him a second time and if your gut is still off then listen to it.
We have gut feelings for a reason so invite her back, chat with the parents and go from there.
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Location: Savannah, Tennessee | I would ask them to come back and try him again, that may give you a better idea of what you should do, and maybe them as well. I've seen situations where young riders have had more horse than they can ride at the time and it has ended in a wreck where the horse was running down the fence, or dragging them out into the pen. However, she may be fine with the horse...especially if she is under the guidance of a professional with lessons. t
If it were me I would feel the situation out a bit more and see what my gut was telling me after another ride and conversation with the parents. |
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| I had a teenage girl try a horse of mine, she fell off the first time she rode her.
I thought for sure they would not purchase her, they did and it ended up being a good thing.
The mare taught her many lessons and made her a great rider.
All you can do is be honest and let them decide and remember it is their decision. You will gain a friend and respect with your honesty |
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