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Location: TN | I need help learning to sit deeper in a turn!
I'm looking at getting an FX3 with flat bars to help with the rock in my saddle and to help me sit down more, but I need other tips.
I know I need to sit down and I try to do that in slow work, but when I look at pics of me (from a run) in the turns I look like I'm standing up in my stirrups instead of sitting. It has caused me to get thrown around twice before when my horse turned hard and I was standing up. It is worst when I feel like my horse is getting tight so it's like I stand up I guess hoping to push him farther into the turn instead of sitting down and rating him down...  I guess I need to sit and still drive with my legs.
Should I make my stirrups longer? I normally ride shorter stirrups, but maybe this is giving me too much room to stand up and brace going into the turn instead of sitting down.
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| How are your legs when you sit? How do they feel?
I see lots of people really push on the sturips to get deep, where you new to keep your legs and knees soft and able to absorbe the turn. If your stiff you kinda pop up and slide you out then stand to correct it. No saying thats you or not. Hard to say without seeing you.
Do an experiment just standing there on your horse. Go to the horn and sit like you would i a turn and what does that do to your seat? Rein hand? Legs? Upper body.
Now take your palm fingers up and just push on the horn and ever so slightly lift your knees and keep your legs soft. How does that affect your deep seat?
I dont mean lift your feet right out of the stirrup just slightly you will see what i mean when you try it :-) |
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Location: TN | della - 2015-06-17 2:50 PM How are your legs when you sit? How do they feel? I see lots of people really push on the sturips to get deep, where you new to keep your legs and knees soft and able to absorbe the turn. If your stiff you kinda pop up and slide you out then stand to correct it. No saying thats you or not. Hard to say without seeing you. Do an experiment just standing there on your horse. Go to the horn and sit like you would i a turn and what does that do to your seat? Rein hand? Legs? Upper body. Now take your palm fingers up and just push on the horn and ever so slightly lift your knees and keep your legs soft. How does that affect your deep seat? I dont mean lift your feet right out of the stirrup just slightly you will see what i mean when you try it :-)
I never would have thought of that but I think you're right that I'm stiff legged when I attempt to sit deep. I must be putting too much pressure into my stirrups. That might be what's helping to pop me up. I'll try your suggestion to loosen up to see how much deeper I can sit. Thank you!!! |
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Location: MD | della - 2015-06-17 2:50 PM How are your legs when you sit? How do they feel? I see lots of people really push on the sturips to get deep, where you new to keep your legs and knees soft and able to absorbe the turn. If your stiff you kinda pop up and slide you out then stand to correct it. No saying thats you or not. Hard to say without seeing you. Do an experiment just standing there on your horse. Go to the horn and sit like you would i a turn and what does that do to your seat? Rein hand? Legs? Upper body. Now take your palm fingers up and just push on the horn and ever so slightly lift your knees and keep your legs soft. How does that affect your deep seat? I dont mean lift your feet right out of the stirrup just slightly you will see what i mean when you try it :-)
I think I can picture what you're saying but do you have a video of someone doing that so I can better visualize? |
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| CE's wrapn3 - 2015-06-17 2:04 PM
della - 2015-06-17 2:50 PM How are your legs when you sit? How do they feel? I see lots of people really push on the sturips to get deep, where you new to keep your legs and knees soft and able to absorbe the turn. If your stiff you kinda pop up and slide you out then stand to correct it. No saying thats you or not. Hard to say without seeing you. Do an experiment just standing there on your horse. Go to the horn and sit like you would i a turn and what does that do to your seat? Rein hand? Legs? Upper body. Now take your palm fingers up and just push on the horn and ever so slightly lift your knees and keep your legs soft. How does that affect your deep seat? I dont mean lift your feet right out of the stirrup just slightly you will see what i mean when you try it :-)
I think I can picture what you're saying but do you have a video of someone doing that so I can better visualize?
I can make one tommrow when I ride if you would like :-) ive never seen a vide. I was tought this in person :-) |
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| First of all it is hard to sit deep in your saddle if the seat is too small because you cannot get your feet in front of you. I could tell you do this and do that but the simplest thing to tell you is to push back on the horn and get your weight on your outside stirrup. If you will just concentrated on pushing back on the saddle horn your feet have to come forward. The rest will begin to work itself out. It is a whole lot easier to remember one thing when running than four things.
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Location: Texas | I agree with streaky...I've gained weight so it's harder for me to sit deep because my seat isn't big enough. |
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Location: TN | della - 2015-06-17 3:21 PM CE's wrapn3 - 2015-06-17 2:04 PM della - 2015-06-17 2:50 PM How are your legs when you sit? How do they feel? I see lots of people really push on the sturips to get deep, where you new to keep your legs and knees soft and able to absorbe the turn. If your stiff you kinda pop up and slide you out then stand to correct it. No saying thats you or not. Hard to say without seeing you. Do an experiment just standing there on your horse. Go to the horn and sit like you would i a turn and what does that do to your seat? Rein hand? Legs? Upper body. Now take your palm fingers up and just push on the horn and ever so slightly lift your knees and keep your legs soft. How does that affect your deep seat? I dont mean lift your feet right out of the stirrup just slightly you will see what i mean when you try it :-) I think I can picture what you're saying but do you have a video of someone doing that so I can better visualize? I can make one tommrow when I ride if you would like :- ) ive never seen a vide. I was tought this in person :- )
I attempted to do this tonight - I'll have to watch the video tomorrow to see if I did it right, but I can totally see what you're saying! You hit the nail on the head Della! :) I could sit so much deeper when I pushed against the horn, kept my legs soft and raised my knees a little. |
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Location: Pelham, TN | You have to use those knees and not stiffen your legs. Do not get discouraged it does take practice. We ride a Shallow Creek Saddle which IMO helps keep your feet forward and has a really deep seat!!! I think it really helps me sit in the turns!! |
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Location: NE Texas | streakysox - 2015-06-17 9:51 PM First of all it is hard to sit deep in your saddle if the seat is too small because you cannot get your feet in front of you. I could tell you do this and do that but the simplest thing to tell you is to push back on the horn and get your weight on your outside stirrup. If you will just concentrated on pushing back on the saddle horn your feet have to come forward. The rest will begin to work itself out. It is a whole lot easier to remember one thing when running than four things.
^^^This. I ride a cutting saddle that is about a half inch bigger than i'd normally ride a barrel saddle. I can get down in the pocket of my seat and my feet stay balanced a touch in front of my hip.
The second thing is to roll your hips up under you and try to sit on the tops of your pants pocket. You won't be ACTUALLY sitting on the tops of your pockets but it's the best way I can describe the motion. |
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| Herbie - 2015-06-18 8:31 AM streakysox - 2015-06-17 9:51 PM First of all it is hard to sit deep in your saddle if the seat is too small because you cannot get your feet in front of you. I could tell you do this and do that but the simplest thing to tell you is to push back on the horn and get your weight on your outside stirrup. If you will just concentrated on pushing back on the saddle horn your feet have to come forward. The rest will begin to work itself out. It is a whole lot easier to remember one thing when running than four things. ^^^This. I ride a cutting saddle that is about a half inch bigger than i'd normally ride a barrel saddle. I can get down in the pocket of my seat and my feet stay balanced a touch in front of my hip.
The second thing is to roll your hips up under you and try to sit on the tops of your pants pocket. You won't be ACTUALLY sitting on the tops of your pockets but it's the best way I can describe the motion.
The only way I could get this motion to a gal I was helping get back into riding was to describe the motion and to get her to think of lifting her belly button to her boobs  |
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| lindseylou2290 - 2015-06-18 10:53 AM
Herbie - 2015-06-18 8:31 AM streakysox - 2015-06-17 9:51 PM First of all it is hard to sit deep in your saddle if the seat is too small because you cannot get your feet in front of you. I could tell you do this and do that but the simplest thing to tell you is to push back on the horn and get your weight on your outside stirrup. If you will just concentrated on pushing back on the saddle horn your feet have to come forward. The rest will begin to work itself out. It is a whole lot easier to remember one thing when running than four things. ^^^This. I ride a cutting saddle that is about a half inch bigger than i'd normally ride a barrel saddle. I can get down in the pocket of my seat and my feet stay balanced a touch in front of my hip.
The second thing is to roll your hips up under you and try to sit on the tops of your pants pocket. You won't be ACTUALLY sitting on the tops of your pockets but it's the best way I can describe the motion.
Ha-ha whatever works. |
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Location: NE Texas | streakysox - 2015-06-18 11:08 AM lindseylou2290 - 2015-06-18 10:53 AM Herbie - 2015-06-18 8:31 AM streakysox - 2015-06-17 9:51 PM First of all it is hard to sit deep in your saddle if the seat is too small because you cannot get your feet in front of you. I could tell you do this and do that but the simplest thing to tell you is to push back on the horn and get your weight on your outside stirrup. If you will just concentrated on pushing back on the saddle horn your feet have to come forward. The rest will begin to work itself out. It is a whole lot easier to remember one thing when running than four things. ^^^This. I ride a cutting saddle that is about a half inch bigger than i'd normally ride a barrel saddle. I can get down in the pocket of my seat and my feet stay balanced a touch in front of my hip.
The second thing is to roll your hips up under you and try to sit on the tops of your pants pocket. You won't be ACTUALLY sitting on the tops of your pockets but it's the best way I can describe the motion. Ha-ha whatever works.
Well, the only other way I can think to explain isn't G or PG rated, so i'll go with your description! HAHA |
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Location: CTX | Herbie - 2015-06-18 11:09 AM streakysox - 2015-06-18 11:08 AM lindseylou2290 - 2015-06-18 10:53 AM Herbie - 2015-06-18 8:31 AM streakysox - 2015-06-17 9:51 PM First of all it is hard to sit deep in your saddle if the seat is too small because you cannot get your feet in front of you. I could tell you do this and do that but the simplest thing to tell you is to push back on the horn and get your weight on your outside stirrup. If you will just concentrated on pushing back on the saddle horn your feet have to come forward. The rest will begin to work itself out. It is a whole lot easier to remember one thing when running than four things. ^^^This. I ride a cutting saddle that is about a half inch bigger than i'd normally ride a barrel saddle. I can get down in the pocket of my seat and my feet stay balanced a touch in front of my hip.
The second thing is to roll your hips up under you and try to sit on the tops of your pants pocket. You won't be ACTUALLY sitting on the tops of your pockets but it's the best way I can describe the motion. Ha-ha whatever works.
That was what I was thinking too.... |
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Meant pickin up* haha
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Location: NE Texas | Anyone want to go watch Magic Mike XXL so we can learn to sit deeper for our turns?!?!?!?! BLAHAHAHA  |
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Location: TN | Herbie - 2015-06-18 11:49 AM Anyone want to go watch Magic Mike XXL so we can learn to sit deeper for our turns?!?!?!?! BLAHAHAHA
Wooooo! Let's go!! Lol |
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