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tweeks
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2016-02-18 10:24 AM
Subject: What to charge to lease broodmare



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I have a friend that has to use her breeding for Chasin Firewater this year and has expressed interest in using our 1D Flit Bar mare that we retired last year. I have never leased a broodmare, what is fair to charge for something like this?

There will be a contract and insurance.

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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2016-02-18 11:05 AM
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What kind of profit would you have made on the mare if you had bred her yourself?  That is the oportunity cost...So i would charge for all costs plus enough to cover what I would have made. 
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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2016-02-18 11:35 AM
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I have leased several broodmares before from friends and currently have one of mine leased out. All of my transactions were in a "Feed Lease" situation - no money paid for the use of the mares. 
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Murphy
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-02-18 11:38 AM
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TheOldGrayMare - 2016-02-18 12:35 PM I have leased several broodmares before from friends and currently have one of mine leased out. All of my transactions were in a "Feed Lease" situation - no money paid for the use of the mares. 

I leased a broodie from a BB and that's how mine was set up too.
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lhighquality
Reg. Apr 2013
Posted 2016-02-18 11:38 AM
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TheOldGrayMare - 2016-02-18 11:35 AM

I have leased several broodmares before from friends and currently have one of mine leased out. All of my transactions were in a "Feed Lease" situation - no money paid for the use of the mares. 

I leased a gelding like this also, the lessee took care of all expenses concerned with the horse & his upkeep & kept him insured. Worked out fine for us.
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rpreast
Reg. Nov 2015
Posted 2016-02-18 12:16 PM
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TheOldGrayMare - 2016-02-18 11:35 AM

I have leased several broodmares before from friends and currently have one of mine leased out. All of my transactions were in a "Feed Lease" situation - no money paid for the use of the mares. 

^^^ Us too. We are lease-ing a broodmare as we speak, and she is with us on a feed lease. We filled out the AQHA lease paperwork, so I think that was a $20 fee.
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2016-02-18 12:30 PM
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TheOldGrayMare - 2016-02-18 11:35 AM I have leased several broodmares before from friends and currently have one of mine leased out. All of my transactions were in a "Feed Lease" situation - no money paid for the use of the mares. 

I wish more people did this......I was told $400 a month to lease a broodmare plus all her expenses when I inquired about a few mares that were listed for lease. 
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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2016-02-18 12:38 PM
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TheOldGrayMare - 2016-02-18 11:35 AM I have leased several broodmares before from friends and currently have one of mine leased out. All of my transactions were in a "Feed Lease" situation - no money paid for the use of the mares. 
I wish more people did this......I was told $400 a month to lease a broodmare plus all her expenses when I inquired about a few mares that were listed for lease. 

It wouldn't be worth it to me to do a lease in that situation. You'd have the mare for at least 16 months ($6,400 just for the lease alone) if everything went smooth and you got in foal right away and weaned the foal at 4 months old and returned the mare. I would rather just go buy a mare. Of course depending on the mare's bloodlines/record, you may not be able to.
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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2016-02-18 12:40 PM
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TheOldGrayMare - 2016-02-18 12:35 PM I have leased several broodmares before from friends and currently have one of mine leased out. All of my transactions were in a "Feed Lease" situation - no money paid for the use of the mares. 

This right here


Carry insurance on the mare cover the costs and give it back in as good or better condition as you got it. 


 
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veintiocho
Reg. Sep 2015
Posted 2016-02-18 12:58 PM
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I leased a mare of mine for $700 + all fees but I kept her until until 3 months prior to her due date. Insurance + contract is a must.
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Wynn
Reg. Jun 2014
Posted 2016-02-18 1:08 PM
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I agree! Carry insurance on the mare cover the costs and give it back in as good or better condition as you got it.
If you are looking for more, I do an "every other foal" with one of mine. What ever they breed to, they re-breed the following year to the same stallion or equivalent value.
But then again, I offered an egg from my daughter of Sunfrost mare for nothing to a longtime friend and mentor.
Friendships shouldn't be lost over broodmares.


Edited by Wynn 2016-02-18 1:09 PM
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tweeks
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2016-02-18 1:22 PM
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Thanks for the replies! Gives me a better idea of what is reasonable
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Warriors Mom
Reg. Mar 2015
Posted 2016-02-18 1:28 PM
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I leased a AAA mare which has produced winners with top bloodlines for 5k this yr. I have to keep insurance on her and return her when the foal is weaned.

edited to add...I do not owe 5k until I get a live foal on the ground.

Edited by Warriors Mom 2016-02-18 1:29 PM
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hoofs_in_motion
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Posted 2016-02-18 1:36 PM
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Warriors Mom - 2016-02-18 1:28 PM I leased a AAA mare which has produced winners with top bloodlines for 5k this yr. I have to keep insurance on her and return her when the foal is weaned. edited to add...I do not owe 5k until I get a live foal on the ground.

you could buy a mare at that cost......
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Warriors Mom
Reg. Mar 2015
Posted 2016-02-18 1:38 PM
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hoofs_in_motion - 2016-02-18 1:36 PM

Warriors Mom - 2016-02-18 1:28 PM I leased a AAA mare which has produced winners with top bloodlines for 5k this yr. I have to keep insurance on her and return her when the foal is weaned. edited to add...I do not owe 5k until I get a live foal on the ground.

you could buy a mare at that cost......

This mare is priced at 3xs that. She is a producer... and there are not many bred like her, if any at all.
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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2016-02-18 1:44 PM
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Warriors Mom - 2016-02-18 1:38 PM

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Warriors Mom - 2016-02-18 1:28 PM I leased a AAA mare which has produced winners with top bloodlines for 5k this yr. I have to keep insurance on her and return her when the foal is weaned. edited to add...I do not owe 5k until I get a live foal on the ground.

you could buy a mare at that cost......

This mare is priced at 3xs that. She is a producer... and there are not many bred like her, if any at all.

To each their own. You are obviously looking for a very specific breeding and performance record. There are tons of proven performers and producers on the market now days for very reasonable prices but if it's worth the $ to you to get that specific mare, more power to you. Only thing I thought when I saw your post was how much $ you'll have in the foal before it ever gets here and what will that do to the cost of it compared to someone who didn't have to spend the extra 5k. Idk if that makes sense out loud but it does in my head lol.
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Warriors Mom
Reg. Mar 2015
Posted 2016-02-18 1:58 PM
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RoaniePonie11 - 2016-02-18 1:44 PM

Warriors Mom - 2016-02-18 1:38 PM

hoofs_in_motion - 2016-02-18 1:36 PM

Warriors Mom - 2016-02-18 1:28 PM I leased a AAA mare which has produced winners with top bloodlines for 5k this yr. I have to keep insurance on her and return her when the foal is weaned. edited to add...I do not owe 5k until I get a live foal on the ground.

you could buy a mare at that cost......

This mare is priced at 3xs that. She is a producer... and there are not many bred like her, if any at all.

To each their own. You are obviously looking for a very specific breeding and performance record. There are tons of proven performers and producers on the market now days for very reasonable prices but if it's worth the $ to you to get that specific mare, more power to you. Only thing I thought when I saw your post was how much $ you'll have in the foal before it ever gets here and what will that do to the cost of it compared to someone who didn't have to spend the extra 5k. Idk if that makes sense out loud but it does in my head lol.

If it would be for resale purposes alone...I surely would not do it. However, I am hoping for a filly to run and add back to my broodmare band.

It is all in how much a horse is worth to someone...

For sure I have done free leases all the time. I have had really nice bred mares given to me. Yet, its all in what you are wanting in how much you will spend.
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