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| I am using a new farrier, and I really like her, she's very thorough and handles the horses well. But, there is one thing that bothered me, she uses the rasp over most of the outside of the hoof. The farrier I had before was very conservative about this, he kept most of the hoof in tact and used the rasp over only a few inches above the bottom of the hoof.
After she rasped off most of the outside of the hoof she brushed a 'sealer' on his hoof.
I'm interested on others thoughts and experiences. I'm leaning toward leaving it alone, but maybe I'm behind the times.
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 Money Eating Baggage Owner
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Location: Phoenix | Mine does that a LITTLE but not as much as some shoers I've seen. As I try to remember what he does I don't recall him being very "aggressive" with it. Just barely goes over. I'll have to ask him why next time shoes are due. I guess I'd be more concerned that she's not rasping the hoof to fit the shoe....mine spends a lot of time making sure the shoe fits the hoof. He also goes to a lot of shoeing competitions/judgings and I appreciate that he puts in the effort to ensure his work is staying consistent. |
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  Ms. Marine
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Location: Texas | The only reason I can think of a farrier rasping all the way up the hoof would be to get rid of a surface crack or something along those lines. If you're not comfortable with what she's doing, ask her why she did it next time you talk to her. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | chicks2 - 2017-01-22 9:19 PM I am using a new farrier, and I really like her, she's very thorough and handles the horses well. But, there is one thing that bothered me, she uses the rasp over most of the outside of the hoof. The farrier I had before was very conservative about this, he kept most of the hoof in tact and used the rasp over only a few inches above the bottom of the hoof. After she rasped off most of the outside of the hoof she brushed a 'sealer' on his hoof. I'm interested on others thoughts and experiences. I'm leaning toward leaving it alone, but maybe I'm behind the times.
I dont think that would be very healthy, how much rasping is this person doing, I would not like my farriers doing this, If this were me I would ask them to leave the rasping the hoof wall out. How many times has she done this, was this the first time? Maybe its just a one time thing? |
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| We had one for a bit who would use sandpaper on the whole hoof. I asked why once and he said just to make it look nice...
We didn't use him very long, that wasn't the only thing that didn't set very well with me. He and his father are pretty popular shoer's though.
One of the things I like about my current trimmer is he's VERY willing to answer my questions, show me things and explain stuff. |
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| She's rasping the hoof to fit the shoe, and I'm pleased with how she has him set, she takes a lot of time to shape the shoe to be sure it fits. It's just that when she's done after getting it all set she goes over the entire hoof with the fine side of the rasp. It's not excessive, just like she's smoothing it, maybe it is for looks.
She shoes a lot of hunter jumpers/dressage horses and maybe that's a thing with them. There's another farrier, well known/respected journeyman, and he does that too. But he does a lot of show horses, so maybe it's a 'looks' issue.
I intend to ask her not to do that next time. She's open to feedback, but I wanted to run this by the barrel racers in case there was some really good reason I hadn't heard about.
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Location: Gainesville, TX | I am guessing it would be for looks. But it is important to be able to see the hoof growth, rings, etc. I wouldn't want them rasping it. |
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Location: In a happy place | I would run away from this farrier as fast as I could. They are going to ruin your horses feet. |
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| chicks2 - 2017-01-23 10:45 AM
She's rasping the hoof to fit the shoe, and I'm pleased with how she has him set, she takes a lot of time to shape the shoe to be sure it fits. It's just that when she's done after getting it all set she goes over the entire hoof with the fine side of the rasp. It's not excessive, just like she's smoothing it, maybe it is for looks.
She shoes a lot of hunter jumpers/dressage horses and maybe that's a thing with them. There's another farrier, well known/respected journeyman, and he does that too. But he does a lot of show horses, so maybe it's a 'looks' issue.
I intend to ask her not to do that next time. She's open to feedback, but I wanted to run this by the barrel racers in case there was some really good reason I hadn't heard about.
Thanks!
You fit the shoe to the hoof, not the hoof to the shoe :-/
Edited by veintiocho 2017-01-23 11:45 AM
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | veintiocho - 2017-01-23 10:44 AM chicks2 - 2017-01-23 10:45 AM She's rasping the hoof to fit the shoe, and I'm pleased with how she has him set, she takes a lot of time to shape the shoe to be sure it fits. It's just that when she's done after getting it all set she goes over the entire hoof with the fine side of the rasp. It's not excessive, just like she's smoothing it, maybe it is for looks. She shoes a lot of hunter jumpers/dressage horses and maybe that's a thing with them. There's another farrier, well known/respected journeyman, and he does that too. But he does a lot of show horses, so maybe it's a 'looks' issue. I intend to ask her not to do that next time. She's open to feedback, but I wanted to run this by the barrel racers in case there was some really good reason I hadn't heard about. Thanks! You fit the shoe to the hoof, not the hoof to the shoe :-/
Yikes and yikes. I have never seen more awful trimming and shoeing jobs than at the horse shows. It would take me all day to explain how insane these people must be to let a person do that. Narrow feet and built up heels. There is often an inch or better from the frog to the surface of the ground. Many rasp to make the hoof look clean and smooth. |
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| veintiocho - 2017-01-23 11:44 AM
chicks2 - 2017-01-23 10:45 AM
She's rasping the hoof to fit the shoe, and I'm pleased with how she has him set, she takes a lot of time to shape the shoe to be sure it fits. It's just that when she's done after getting it all set she goes over the entire hoof with the fine side of the rasp. It's not excessive, just like she's smoothing it, maybe it is for looks.
She shoes a lot of hunter jumpers/dressage horses and maybe that's a thing with them. There's another farrier, well known/respected journeyman, and he does that too. But he does a lot of show horses, so maybe it's a 'looks' issue.
I intend to ask her not to do that next time. She's open to feedback, but I wanted to run this by the barrel racers in case there was some really good reason I hadn't heard about.
Thanks!
You fit the shoe to the hoof, not the hoof to the shoe :-/
Correct, seems I may not have phrased the first of my sentence clearly. As I explained in the remainder of the sentence...... |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Our fairrier used to do this at a barn I worked at. The owner had halter horses and show jumpers. I ask him what he was doing one day and he said he was making the hoof smooth. He said he had to get the wall smooth for "paint"(Hoof polish). He said you could get the polish off easier. If you don't get all the polish off after shows it wreaks havoc on the hoof. Dries them out badly. He only did it for a few seconds on each side of the wall. We never had a problem and he wasright, made it so much easier to get the polish off!
I don't remember him putting a sealer on.
I did have a horse with a crack in his hoof wall that needed rasping and sealer. But the crack was pretty deep and painful.... He was fine after the rasping and sealer. Hope that helps.  |
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Money Eating Baggage Owner
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Location: Phoenix | Wanted to add, I've never had a shoer totally neglect rasping the outside of the hoof. The only difference in all these shoers is what they're accomplishing with the rasp. |
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Location: Florida.. | ours does bottom only.. id NOT allow that |
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| My farrier (very trusted and very good) does it a little different with both of my shod horses. On my paint horse (with brittle paint horse feet) he rasps a little over the sections the nails clip down but nowhere else outside and then he puts a strengthener/sealer (I forgot exactly what it is) over the nails. Her feet are 100x better ever since he's been doing that.
My grey mare has fantastic feet so he just briefly rasps the outside about an inch up her hoof because her feet wing out slightly (I'm not sure thats the right way to descirbe it lol) that just tames the edges around the shoe.
He's never rasped the entire outside of the hoof, nor would I let him...
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | **Cowgirl Up** - 2017-01-24 1:47 PM My farrier (very trusted and very good) does it a little different with both of my shod horses. On my paint horse (with brittle paint horse feet) he rasps a little over the sections the nails clip down but nowhere else outside and then he puts a strengthener/sealer (I forgot exactly what it is) over the nails. Her feet are 100x better ever since he's been doing that.
My grey mare has fantastic feet so he just briefly rasps the outside about an inch up her hoof because her feet wing out slightly (I'm not sure thats the right way to descirbe it lol) that just tames the edges around the shoe.
He's never rasped the entire outside of the hoof, nor would I let him...
that sounds correct. My show horse toes out and will develope a wing if we don't keep him trimmed. We can never change this from the bottom as it is more important to have him trimmed the way his foot is made, but we do rasp the side to keep him from getting that winged out look. We can slightly change the appearance from the top without messing with the integrity of this hoof. |
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