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| Often, but not always when warming up at a race my gelding would cough once or twice when we started to trot. It seemed it usually happened where it was dusty in the warm up area... so I chalked it up to dust. He never coughs at home when riding. Last night at our local jackpot we made a decent normal run, but when we came out of the alley way and slowed down my gelding coughed really hard 3 times in a row. I immediately got off, loosened my cinch and I could hear him take a 2-3 breaths that sounded hollow. I have no other way to explain the sound other than that. I watched him for bleeding and cooled him good.
I talked to my vet today and he can't get me in until next week to scope, but he said it doesn't sound like a bleeding issue because of the hollow sound. He suggested (worse case scenario) either Roar or displaced palate. I want to be prepared as much as possible next week. I have never heard that sound before last night - it was so weird. Has anyone ever ran into this kind of issue? What did it end up being? |
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Location: Central Texas | Equine Nasopharyngeal/Tracheal Cicitrix is what mine had. I hope yours does not. I put mine down and a few weeks later I put another one down. |
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| Marfan - 2017-10-20 7:22 AM Equine Nasopharyngeal/Tracheal Cicitrix is what mine had. I hope yours does not. I put mine down and a few weeks later I put another one down.
I had to look that up... That is a little scary, but seems to be more of a Texas or Florida issue (I am in Utah). I am sorry to hear about your horse. I will still put this on my list of things to look at during our scoping appointment. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | My guess is that you have a bleeder. ..if he was a roarer hed sound more like john deere tractor..if it was a flapper issue hed be louder as well..scoping so long after the run nothing may show up...but thats my guess.....m |
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| mruggles - 2017-10-20 2:47 PM My guess is that you have a bleeder. ..if he was a roarer hed sound more like john deere tractor..if it was a flapper issue hed be louder as well..scoping so long after the run nothing may show up...but thats my guess.....m
That was my guess too. My vet felt like it was an option, but that there could be something more due to the hollow sound I heard. I just don't know much about respiratory issues (other than bleeding)... and the more I read online the more worried I get.
I have my appointment set up so that I can go work my horse on the track prior to our appointment as my vet is just 10 mins away from there.
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| Mine have the same condition Marfsns have. I am one of the lucky ones that mine was caught early and a vaccine halted the progress, it does not work in all horses. My horses have been able to remain grazing 24/7. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2017-10-20 4:16 PM
 Mine have the same condition Marfsns have.  I am one of the lucky ones that mine was caught early and a vaccine halted the progress, it does not work in all horses. My horses have been able to remain grazing 24/7.
Where are you located? I read up on that and it seems it is a coastal issue. I’m located in Utah (and horses aren’t pastured). I sure hope that’s not it!! |
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| Mis_Trev - 2017-10-20 7:39 PM rodeomom3 - 2017-10-20 4:16 PM Mine have the same condition Marfsns have. I am one of the lucky ones that mine was caught early and a vaccine halted the progress, it does not work in all horses. My horses have been able to remain grazing 24/7. Where are you located? I read up on that and it seems it is a coastal issue. I’m located in Utah (and horses aren’t pastured ). I sure hope that’s not it!!
Houston area, yes it is mainly found in coastal areas although cases are starting to he found in other areas. I highly doubt it is in Utah though. Good luck with your horse :) |
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| rodeomom3 - 2017-10-20 6:51 PM
Mis_Trev - 2017-10-20 7:39 PM rodeomom3 - 2017-10-20 4:16 PM  Mine have the same condition Marfsns have.  I am one of the lucky ones that mine was caught early and a vaccine halted the progress, it does not work in all horses. My horses have been able to remain grazing 24/7. Where are you located? I read up on that and it seems it is a coastal issue. I’m located in Utah (and horses aren’t pastured ). I sure hope that’s not it!!
Thank you - I doubt that’s the issue, but I do have it written down to review at my appointment. |
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Location: Florida.. | a roarer woud usually do it during exercise anywhere...and it is usually often during being ridden..
yours just coughed hollow few times after the run?
did your horse stretch neck out or down?
it sounds more like a allergy issue . some deep coughs to clear airway ...
but id also look at a bleeder..it doesnt always bleed out..
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| Bibliafarm - 2017-10-20 8:00 PM
a roarer woud usually do it during exercise anywhere...and it is usually often during being ridden..
yours just coughed hollow few times after the run?Â
did your horse stretch neck out or down?
it sounds more like a allergy issue . some deep coughs to clear airway ...
but id also look at a bleeder..it doesnt always bleed out..Â
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I want to say he coughed with his neck stretched out. I was still on him slowing down after my run. I jumped right off him after he coughed.
The hollow breathes came right after I got off of him and it was only a couple breaths in. Then returned to normal.
I did read Roaring is more of a whistle sound, which isn’t what I heard. I was able to get a nebulizer treatment today. I know I heard it right after the treatment, because my friend heard it too. |
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Location: Illinois | Mine's a roarer and a bleeder bc his flap is partially paralyzed, he sounds like a freight train when you ride him. I have to condition him super slowly and then keep him in 2x as beter shape as I do others for him not to sound like I just pulled him out of the pasture after 6 years off and loped for 10 minutes. I'd think if yours was a roarer you'd notice it most of the time, all my vet had to do to diagnose that was to put the bag over his nose and then we proceeded from there. Mine also bled many times before it finally came out once. A good friend has one that's a bleeder and never bled out, she had her scoped and her airways were full of scar tissue from it all. We have one at my barn that suddenly developed an allergy, and coughs like he's dying with exercise. He was checked out, scoped, all 9 yards, and finally just tried an antihistamine and he's been fine. |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | Same exact thing happened to my horse. And went on for a while. He was first diagnosed by one vet with COPD. Nothing helped and he kept getting worse so I took him to another vet and she said it was sever allergies which made sense because he does have bad allergies. Few months late I couldn’t even ride him so called her back and she still said it’s allergies. I let that go for about a month and I knew there was something else. I took him to a equine vet and it didn’t take 5 minuets for him to know something was very wrong. He had double acute pnomnia. He told me had I waited another month he would have been dead. When he scooped him his lungs and air way was full of blood and infection. He put him on some very strong $200 antibiotics and albuterol and said it might work but he was doubtful but it was worth trying. I followed every direction he gave me to a T. Stall rest, no dust, no being left out in rainy weather, no contact with outside horses exc... it took him 5 months to get over it. So please make sure you vet does every test. Had the first two done it (first one didn’t even listen to his lungs) this might have been prevented. |
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| TessBelle - 2017-10-24 6:55 AM Same exact thing happened to my horse. And went on for a while. He was first diagnosed by one vet with COPD. Nothing helped and he kept getting worse so I took him to another vet and she said it was sever allergies which made sense because he does have bad allergies. Few months late I couldn’t even ride him so called her back and she still said it’s allergies. I let that go for about a month and I knew there was something else. I took him to a equine vet and it didn’t take 5 minuets for him to know something was very wrong. He had double acute pnomnia. He told me had I waited another month he would have been dead. When he scooped him his lungs and air way was full of blood and infection. He put him on some very strong $200 antibiotics and albuterol and said it might work but he was doubtful but it was worth trying. I followed every direction he gave me to a T. Stall rest, no dust, no being left out in rainy weather, no contact with outside horses exc... it took him 5 months to get over it. So please make sure you vet does every test. Had the first two done it (first one didn’t even listen to his lungs) this might have been prevented.
Were the first two vets not equine vets? I am defintely getting him scoped no matter what. Its hunting season here in Utah so my vet is out of town until next week. I'll keep ya'll updated what it turns out to be! |
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| My horse had displacement of the soft palate. He would cough when he’d come out of the arena displaced. You could see him gassing out in videos and hear a buzzing sound (one time it sounded like he was blowing on a kazoo toy) when he would would get fatigued and it would displace. He was scoped and displaced right there in the barn just by blocking his airway. Took him to Auburn, had a staphlectomy and a tie forward and has had no issues, other than a couple warm up coughs every time we ride. |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | Mis_Trev - 2017-10-24 10:14 AM
TessBelle - 2017-10-24 6:55 AM Same exact thing happened to my horse. And went on for a while. He was first diagnosed by one vet with COPD. Nothing helped and he kept getting worse so I took him to another vet and she said it was sever allergies which made sense because he does have bad allergies. Few months late I couldn’t even ride him so called her back and she still said it’s allergies. I let that go for about a month and I knew there was something else. I took him to a equine vet and it didn’t take 5 minuets for him to know something was very wrong. He had double acute pnomnia. He told me had I waited another month he would have been dead. When he scooped him his lungs and air way was full of blood and infection. He put him on some very strong $200 antibiotics and albuterol and said it might work but he was doubtful but it was worth trying. I followed every direction he gave me to a T. Stall rest, no dust, no being left out in rainy weather, no contact with outside horses exc... it took him 5 months to get over it. So please make sure you vet does every test. Had the first two done it (first one didn’t even listen to his lungs) this might have been prevented.
Were the first two vets not equine vets? I am defintely getting him scoped no matter what. Its hunting season here in Utah so my vet is out of town until next week. I'll keep ya'll updated what it turns out to be!Â
The first was a mixed(small and large animal) vet. The 2nd was just a large animal vet. . The third was an actual equine vet the specializes in performance and lameness. I give the first vet the benefit of a doubt. Id forgot but did run a ton blood work him and everything came back normal except for he did have mild cushings. But he said that t wasn’t enough to be concerned with and the equine vet agreed. Still not sure what caused his blood not to indicate an infection but it didn’t.
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