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  Texas Lone Star
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    Location: where ever my L/Q trl is parked | I know there has posted here a few times, but can't find what I want to know. I want to know for those that have had horse(s) with this injury how long did it take for your horse to heal? I can't afford the stem cell therapy so the horse is doomed to the barn/stall rest with a eggbar that has a 3/4" lift welding to the heels of the shoe. My vet said 3 to 6 months, but thinking longer- it's been 30 days. Can I get some input on time frames? Thanks so much |
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 Hummer's Hero
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    Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | Hubby's heading horse had an 8% tear in his front left. 60 days stall rest, then gradually increasing work. That put us in the dead of winter, so I just let him have the time off. We think he did it in Oct 2012, and due to Hubby being super busy, we didn't try to ride him until June 2013. I think it was really good for him to have all that time off, being turned out. He had ZERO issues since with it, and we roped on him pretty hard this past summer and fall. |
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 Cute Little Imp
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     Location: N Texas | Depends on the severity of the tear. Three months doesn't seem like long, I'm betting at least six months. You should try the Back on Track wraps or PHT magnetic wraps. They help with healing and pain relief. Also look into Nutrawound. I haven't tried that yet, but they have a money back guarantee. |
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 Best of the Badlands
          Location: You never know where I will show up...... | I was told 6 months for my mare....I didn't do stem cell or anything on her either, I just put her in a small turnout and actually just sold her to be a broodmare. |
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 Accident Prone
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Aqhaczy - 2014-02-25 9:19 AM
I know there has posted here a few times, but can't find what I want to know.
I want to know for those that have had horse(s) with this injury how long did it take for your horse to heal? I can't afford the stem cell therapy so the horse is doomed to the barn/stall rest with a eggbar that has a 3/4" lift welding to the heels of the shoe. My vet said 3 to 6 months, but thinking longer- it's been 30 days. Can I get some input on time frames? Thanks so much
My vet told me 3-6 months. In reality, it took over a year to get her sound, slowly legged up and running. I tried to bring her back at the 6 month mark, but she got sore again. 3-6 months would be a good limit on keeping your horse in that shoe tho. IMO Mine got crushed heels from it because we tried to leave her in it too long. Should have come out of the eggbar wedge and gone to a rocker toe sooner. |
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      Location: Northern CA | My good RCH has a DDFT that is strained in 3 spots, so not even torn. My vet said 6 months to a year, and that was a guarded prognosis. I opted to do the stem cell because he is insured, the vet believes I will be back to showing him in 6 months. It has been 4 weeks today since he was injected, and I was able to begin his rehab 3 days after the procedure. I am riding at a walk in reactive ground for 30 minutes a day. He does not seem to be in any pain right now. Good luck. |
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 Tough Patooty
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   Location: Sperry, OK | halter_ego - 2014-02-25 9:36 AM My good RCH has a DDFT that is strained in 3 spots, so not even torn. My vet said 6 months to a year, and that was a guarded prognosis. I opted to do the stem cell because he is insured, the vet believes I will be back to showing him in 6 months. It has been 4 weeks today since he was injected, and I was able to begin his rehab 3 days after the procedure. I am riding at a walk in reactive ground for 30 minutes a day. He does not seem to be in any pain right now. Good luck.
What is reactive ground? |
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      Location: Northern CA | Soft ground, that is not deep. Basically soft enough to leave a hoof print. |
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  Texas Lone Star
Posts: 5318
    Location: where ever my L/Q trl is parked | this is a trail horse and the tear on front right outside pastern- 1/4" (?) tear looking at the ultrasound.
Edited by Aqhaczy 2014-02-26 1:10 PM
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| Three 4 Luck - 2014-02-25 9:26 AM Aqhaczy - 2014-02-25 9:19 AM
I know there has posted here a few times, but can't find what I want to know.
I want to know for those that have had horse(s) with this injury how long did it take for your horse to heal? I can't afford the stem cell therapy so the horse is doomed to the barn/stall rest with a eggbar that has a 3/4" lift welding to the heels of the shoe. My vet said 3 to 6 months, but thinking longer- it's been 30 days. Can I get some input on time frames? Thanks so much
My vet told me 3-6 months. In reality, it took over a year to get her sound, slowly legged up and running. I tried to bring her back at the 6 month mark, but she got sore again. 3-6 months would be a good limit on keeping your horse in that shoe tho. IMO Mine got crushed heels from it because we tried to leave her in it too long. Should have come out of the eggbar wedge and gone to a rocker toe sooner.
Ditto to this!!! I have been treating a damaged DDFT for nearly 18 months. Mine was the result of a wire cut at the pastern that turned into a tendon sheath infection. My mare will never be riding sound because of the extent of the damage, but we had to do the egg bar with a wedge for about 10 months. It was too long. Her heels were so underrun and the whole foot had moved forward. A rocker toe with some extended heel support would be the next step. My mare's toe would pop up (still does) because she has permanent laxity to the tendon. So I would caution you on using a bar shoe for too long, unless it is absolutely necessary. |
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 Tough Patooty
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   Location: Sperry, OK | halter_ego - 2014-02-25 11:28 AM Soft ground, that is not deep. Basically soft enough to leave a hoof print.
I have always been taught to rehab soft tissue on firm ground. Interesting. |
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 Cute Little Imp
Posts: 2747
     Location: N Texas | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-02-26 1:19 PM
halter_ego - 2014-02-25 11:28 AM Soft ground, that is not deep.Β Basically soft enough to leave a hoof print.Β
I have always been taught to rehab soft tissue on firm ground. Β Interesting.Β
I thought the same thing. Firm ground to strengthen the soft tissues. One of the only things I like about living on hard black dirt  |
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      Location: Northern CA | Using one of the top lameness vets on the west coast, and he said absolutely no hard ground. Needs to be ground soft enough that the toe has some give when he walks. I am not sure if it is due to the location of the strains or just his theory on rehab, but he adiment about not riding an hard ground.
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      Location: Northern CA | Gunner11 - 2014-02-26 11:45 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-02-26 1:19 PM halter_ego - 2014-02-25 11:28 AM Soft ground, that is not deep. Basically soft enough to leave a hoof print. I have always been taught to rehab soft tissue on firm ground. Interesting. I thought the same thing. Firm ground to strengthen the soft tissues. One of the only things I like about living on hard black dirt 
My vet actually says the opposite. He wants the soft ground so that the toe can depress in the ground, in turn "stretching" the DDFT. Granted this is for a strain, I am unsure that you would want "stretch" on a true tear. Not a vet, so I go by what mine recommends |
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 Wounded in Action
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       Location: LOUISIANA | Im fighting this right now with one of my broodmares. just finished three months in the stall, little progress...In gonna turn her out in a small area also..
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  Texas Lone Star
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    Location: where ever my L/Q trl is parked | darchick - 2014-02-26 1:15 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-02-25 9:26 AM Aqhaczy - 2014-02-25 9:19 AM
I know there has posted here a few times, but can't find what I want to know.
I want to know for those that have had horse(s) with this injury how long did it take for your horse to heal? I can't afford the stem cell therapy so the horse is doomed to the barn/stall rest with a eggbar that has a 3/4" lift welding to the heels of the shoe. My vet said 3 to 6 months, but thinking longer- it's been 30 days. Can I get some input on time frames? Thanks so much
My vet told me 3-6 months. In reality, it took over a year to get her sound, slowly legged up and running. I tried to bring her back at the 6 month mark, but she got sore again. 3-6 months would be a good limit on keeping your horse in that shoe tho. IMO Mine got crushed heels from it because we tried to leave her in it too long. Should have come out of the eggbar wedge and gone to a rocker toe sooner. Ditto to this!!! I have been treating a damaged DDFT for nearly 18 months. Mine was the result of a wire cut at the pastern that turned into a tendon sheath infection. My mare will never be riding sound because of the extent of the damage, but we had to do the egg bar with a wedge for about 10 months. It was too long. Her heels were so underrun and the whole foot had moved forward. A rocker toe with some extended heel support would be the next step. My mare's toe would pop up (still does) because she has permanent laxity to the tendon. So I would caution you on using a bar shoe for too long, unless it is absolutely necessary.
She's been in stall w/run for 30 days now..... took her to vet last week for recheck and ultrasound- no change- no other damage- vet will see her again in 30 days. He hasn't said anything about when or how long till we change angle of the foot. |
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 My Eating is Horrible
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    Location: GA | My older gelding's looked "moth eaten" - we turned him out for a year & then carefully brought him back with no problems. Even placed at State afterwards. |
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 Dr. Ruth
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          Location: Blissfully happy Giants fan!!! | Aw dang girl-is this your buckskin?
I am not sure how much help this is going to be but Grasshopper had deterioration of his deep digital flexor tendon from his accident. Once they got the tendon sheath somewhat stabilized and he came out of the cast, they put him in some funky shoe. Well, with Dr. Tanner it was a boot and then Brazos decided they knew better than Dr. Tanner and they put him in a shoe too soon and the wrong one but let's not get into that.
Anyways, when Dr. Tanner and I talked, he had a very specific game plan for it and it was a change in the shoe and angle like every 2-3 weeks and then when he got to an angle that he was satisfied with it went to every 4-6. They had to do some damage control once I got Grasshopper back under Dr. Tanner's care but that was the plan.
Which kind of goes to some of the other posters in saying don't got too long changing but don't go real fast. I will also say, more hand walking did Grasshopper more good than sitting in a stall. He couldn't do a lot but a little bit helped. And now that he is recovered, consistent exercise is what keeps that tendon and ligament strong. |
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