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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Just curious why some AQHA papers are printed vertically and others horizontally. I just noticed it going through my book. My mare has one that is horizontal and my gelding's is vertical.
My mare has a "foundation percentage" listed on her papers and my Gelding has one (TB) listed on his papers way on down the line. Does this have anything to do with it? Curious. |
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Location: Lost in the corn of Iowa. | Are they both the new papers? My gelding has the original blue papers and those are vertical, but a mare I registered a couple years ago was the tan papers and those are horizontal. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Girls_Gotta_Jet - 2015-04-28 12:58 PM Are they both the new papers? My gelding has the original blue papers and those are vertical, but a mare I registered a couple years ago was the tan papers and those are horizontal.
I'm not sure?
My mare is 18 and hers are tan and horizontal
My gelding is almost 10 and his original ones are blue and vertical. I only have a copy of his original papers so my copy is just white printer paper.
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| IRunOnFaith - 2015-04-28 1:01 PM Girls_Gotta_Jet - 2015-04-28 12:58 PM Are they both the new papers? My gelding has the original blue papers and those are vertical, but a mare I registered a couple years ago was the tan papers and those are horizontal. I'm not sure?
My mare is 18 and hers are tan and horizontal
My gelding is almost 10 and his original ones are blue and vertical. I only have a copy of his original papers so my copy is just white printer paper.
"New" papers happen when you transfer horses ... so a mare that is 18 can have the tan horizontal papers. If ya check out the old blue papers, the transfers are listed on the bottom (or back). The tan papers are just reprinted with current owners on them - I believe, and someone please correct me if I am wrong on this, but you must contact AQHA for the previous owners of a horse that carries the tan papers.
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Location: Winging It in KY | Tan papers are Appendix horses and white with blue trim is Regular Registered. The vertical and horizantal depends on the age of the horse and if they have ever been transfered. They have changed the style of the papers now so if you have a horse transfered now the papers will be the new style. |
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Location: Texas | cuckleburr - 2015-04-28 1:46 PM
Tan papers are Appendix horses and white with blue trim is Regular Registered. The vertical and horizantal depends on the age of the horse and if they have ever been transfered. They have changed the style of the papers now so if you have a horse transfered now the papers will be the new style.
Pretty sure they are all the same color now once you transfer. I have an appendix gelding and his papers are colored the same, just say appendix. |
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Location: Southern Indiana | They just changed them over the years. Now they are all horizontal. My appendix papers and Aqha look the same one just says Appendix in big letters across the top.
From the 80s- early 2000 they never changed. Then they added pictures and now turned them sideways and have digital images of markings and also pictures on the back. |
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Location: Winging It in KY | TheDutchMan01 - 2015-04-28 3:07 PM They just changed them over the years. Now they are all horizontal. My appendix papers and Aqha look the same one just says Appendix in big letters across the top. From the 80s- early 2000 they never changed. Then they added pictures and now turned them sideways and have digital images of markings and also pictures on the back.
Do they still put an X in front of their registration numbers? |
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Location: Southern Indiana | Yes! I think appendix is so stupid! The TB on my mare's papers is like 3 generations back. Not that it really matters.... |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | All very good info, Thanks guys.  |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | TheDutchMan01 - 2015-04-28 2:38 PM Yes! I think appendix is so stupid! The TB on my mare's papers is like 3 generations back. Not that it really matters....
My gelding's is way far back too but I'd rather know his ancestor was a TB than not know or have to use Google. LOL It makes it simpler. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | The reason for appendix registry is a good one. It allows outcrossing to TB's while expecting them to be good enough to prove they belong by getting an ROM before they can be advanced to the regular registry. If your appendix horse doesn't have his regular number in spite of being 1, 2 or 3 generations away from the reason he's appendix, nobody in between got a ROM or advanced them to regular papers.
All papers now are mustard color yellow. If they are appendix, it's in colored lettering and their number has an X in front. The old papers for regular registry were white with blue borders. The appendix papers used to be yellow. |
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Location: where ever my L/Q trl is parked | I thought the X in front of numbers indicated Appendix registry?
Oops didn't see Oregon response... yes is right about the X.
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| TheDutchMan01 - 2015-04-28 2:38 PM
Yes! I think appendix is so stupid! The TB on my mare's papers is like 3 generations back. Not that it really matters....
Appendix horses have to EARN the right to have their papers changed from appendix to permanent registered (regular registry). If they have not earned that right by obtaining a register of merit then no matter how far back the thoroughbred is the horse will still be appendix. I have an older mare that was appendix registered for 17 years. She has her racing ROM but no one seemed to think changing her papers was too important. Also, I bought a made that was appendix but had her racing ROM. I had her papers changed to permanent registered. Some people just don't really care about changing the papers. Other than breeding to a thoroughbred stallion it really does not make a lot of difference. |
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| The current AQHA regular and appendix have GOLD not yellow borders around them.. appendix is written at the top of the page in the graphics. The Halter and WP people who are favored by AQHA are the ones that got the papers changed from the blue border to the gold border. They wanted a registration certificate to look more like an award poster so they could frame them and hang on their stall fronts and look nice.
The old papers contained a lot of information when registering colts with everyone's membership number and information stamped on them and eliminated a lot of wasted time calling AQHA and already had a transfer on the back of the blue certificates ... cut down on paper use and printing out forms etc ... and had room for 6 previous owners which could raise a red flag of a problem horse ..
READ THIS NONSENSE AND WEEP .. everytime a company or the government offers you more false safety crap you know the price is going to increase ... and no there was no stolen horse or registration paper problems .... MONEY IS THE ROOT CAUSE ... REGISTRATION DOUBLED TO $30 and today it is $35 plus DNA $40 AND NOW THE STUPID 5 PANEL TESTING ... ALL BIG PROFIT MAKERS FOR AQHA with no increase in membership services .... it has even increased .. lol
GOLD BORDERED CERTIFICATES HAPPENED IN 2011 ..
http://americashorsedaily.com/aqha-registration-certificates/#.VUCG...
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Location: Winging It in KY | BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-04-29 3:54 AM The current AQHA regular and appendix have GOLD not yellow borders around them.. appendix is written at the top of the page in the graphics. The Halter and WP people who are favored by AQHA are the ones that got the papers changed from the blue border to the gold border. They wanted a registration certificate to look more like an award poster so they could frame them and hang on their stall fronts and look nice. The old papers contained a lot of information when registering colts with everyone's membership number and information stamped on them and eliminated a lot of wasted time calling AQHA and already had a transfer on the back of the blue certificates ... cut down on paper use and printing out forms etc ... and had room for 6 previous owners which could raise a red flag of a problem horse .. READ THIS NONSENSE AND WEEP .. everytime a company or the government offers you more false safety crap you know the price is going to increase ... and no there was no stolen horse or registration paper problems .... MONEY IS THE ROOT CAUSE ... REGISTRATION DOUBLED TO $30 and today it is $35 plus DNA $40 AND NOW THE STUPID 5 PANEL TESTING ... ALL BIG PROFIT MAKERS FOR AQHA with no increase in membership services .... it has even increased .. lol GOLD BORDERED CERTIFICATES HAPPENED IN 2011 .. http://americashorsedaily.com/aqha-registration-certificates/#.VUCG...
Thanks for the info. Had a couple horses transfered last year and never really looked at the papers when I got them back except to make sure the names were correct. I didn't realize all the info that they have on them now. Will have to really check them out when I get home today. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | The new papers are ugly. I had one I never transferred because I didn't want them to re-issue the new ugly papers. I also didn't realize until yesterday that they no longer put transfer forms on the papers. All that blank space on the back serving no purpose, and they're going to reprint them anyway--why was that changed? |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-04-29 12:54 AM The current AQHA regular and appendix have GOLD not yellow borders around them.. appendix is written at the top of the page in the graphics. The Halter and WP people who are favored by AQHA are the ones that got the papers changed from the blue border to the gold border. They wanted a registration certificate to look more like an award poster so they could frame them and hang on their stall fronts and look nice. The old papers contained a lot of information when registering colts with everyone's membership number and information stamped on them and eliminated a lot of wasted time calling AQHA and already had a transfer on the back of the blue certificates ... cut down on paper use and printing out forms etc ... and had room for 6 previous owners which could raise a red flag of a problem horse .. READ THIS NONSENSE AND WEEP .. everytime a company or the government offers you more false safety crap you know the price is going to increase ... and no there was no stolen horse or registration paper problems .... MONEY IS THE ROOT CAUSE ... REGISTRATION DOUBLED TO $30 and today it is $35 plus DNA $40 AND NOW THE STUPID 5 PANEL TESTING ... ALL BIG PROFIT MAKERS FOR AQHA with no increase in membership services .... it has even increased .. lol GOLD BORDERED CERTIFICATES HAPPENED IN 2011 .. http://americashorsedaily.com/aqha-registration-certificates/#.VUCG... Nobody said they had gold or yellow borders. For craps sake get a grip.  Edited by OregonBR 2015-04-29 1:07 PM
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