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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | Whats everyones like? Curious to see how others do it. I normally go get a fecal count and worm off of that but have yet to make it to the vet due to work schedule. | |
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 The One
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Location: South Georgia | I use this schedule...
https://www.valleyvet.com/si_worm_facts.html | |
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| Uh...when I remember to buy some. Usually in the spring. If they are lucky, in the fall. Never had an issue.
I do worm new ones when they get to my place. | |
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 No Name Nancy
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Location: never in the right place | I worm on a fecal count. I only have 1 horse and pick up pen daily. I haven't wormed in years | |
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| We do fecal egg counts and use that to dictate our deworming schedule. A LOT of people abuse dewormers and do them every 6 weeks or so, and that's one of the reasons we are seeing so much resistance to certain dewormers available on the market.
Approximately 80% of the horses shed roughly 20% of the worms, and vice versa- 20% of the horses shed ~80% of the worms, so it is best to have a FEC done to learn what type of shedder your horses are, high or low, and base a deworming schedule on that. | |
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 Coyote Country Queen
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| I deworm with an ivermectin after we get a good freeze in the winter. Then I deworm with a fenbendazole and a pyrantal pamoate once each during the rest of the year. I clean stalls daily and can keep a good eye on manure. Over the years I have rarely ever seen anything in their manure, however this year I did see bot fly larvae in almost every horse's pen after deworming. Bots were bad this year, and every horse had a bunch of eggs on them, so I suppose that could be the reason. I haven't checked with my vet yet, but am curious whether I should deworm again, or if I should feel okay that my dewormer did its job.
We have never done fecals, but it is something I need to look in to. | |
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 My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | madredepeanut - 2018-01-22 5:13 PM
We do fecal egg counts and use that to dictate our deworming schedule. A LOT of people abuse dewormers and do them every 6 weeks or so, and that's one of the reasons we are seeing so much resistance to certain dewormers available on the market.
Approximately 80% of the horses shed roughly 20% of the worms, and vice versa- 20% of the horses shed ~80% of the worms, so it is best to have a FEC done to learn what type of shedder your horses are, high or low, and base a deworming schedule on that.
How often do fecals need to be done? We've always done the rotational worming, bought each horse the yearly package from Valley Vet. I know that's not recommended now, so wondering where to start on fecals and if we need to do it yearly, or monthly, or how often? I feel dumb for asking!!! | |
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 Shelter Dog Lover
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| Jenbabe - 2018-01-22 5:30 PM I deworm with an ivermectin after we get a good freeze in the winter. Then I deworm with a fenbendazole and a pyrantal pamoate once each during the rest of the year. I clean stalls daily and can keep a good eye on manure. Over the years I have rarely ever seen anything in their manure, however this year I did see bot fly larvae in almost every horse's pen after deworming. Bots were bad this year, and every horse had a bunch of eggs on them, so I suppose that could be the reason. I haven't checked with my vet yet, but am curious whether I should deworm again, or if I should feel okay that my dewormer did its job. We have never done fecals, but it is something I need to look in to.
I saw some last year in their manure, we did not hardly have a winter at all, worms and bugs were terrible. My vet had me worm with Ivermectin again in 2 weeks, nothing the 2nd time. | |
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| Chandler's Mom - 2018-01-22 6:51 PM
madredepeanut - 2018-01-22 5:13 PM
We do fecal egg counts and use that to dictate our deworming schedule. A LOT of people abuse dewormers and do them every 6 weeks or so, and that's one of the reasons we are seeing so much resistance to certain dewormers available on the market.
Approximately 80% of the horses shed roughly 20% of the worms, and vice versa- 20% of the horses shed ~80% of the worms, so it is best to have a FEC done to learn what type of shedder your horses are, high or low, and base a deworming schedule on that.
How often do fecals need to be done? We've always done the rotational worming, bought each horse the yearly package from Valley Vet. I know that's not recommended now, so wondering where to start on fecals and if we need to do it yearly, or monthly, or how often? I feel dumb for asking!!!
I would call your local vet and see what they recommend as far as bringing a fecal sample in for them to examine. Depending on what they find, your pasture/boarding/stabling situation, plus your location, they should be able to give you an outline on how frequently to deworm, and what to use each time.
Don't feel dumb at all, that's what this community is for! We are all here to help each other succeed  | |
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My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | madredepeanut - 2018-01-22 9:50 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2018-01-22 6:51 PM
madredepeanut - 2018-01-22 5:13 PM
We do fecal egg counts and use that to dictate our deworming schedule. A LOT of people abuse dewormers and do them every 6 weeks or so, and that's one of the reasons we are seeing so much resistance to certain dewormers available on the market.
Approximately 80% of the horses shed roughly 20% of the worms, and vice versa- 20% of the horses shed ~80% of the worms, so it is best to have a FEC done to learn what type of shedder your horses are, high or low, and base a deworming schedule on that.
How often do fecals need to be done? We've always done the rotational worming, bought each horse the yearly package from Valley Vet. I know that's not recommended now, so wondering where to start on fecals and if we need to do it yearly, or monthly, or how often? I feel dumb for asking!!!
I would call your local vet and see what they recommend as far as bringing a fecal sample in for them to examine. Depending on what they find, your pasture/boarding/stabling situation, plus your location, they should be able to give you an outline on how frequently to deworm, and what to use each time.
Don't feel dumb at all, that's what this community is for! We are all here to help each other succeed
Thank you as always, and that makes perfect sense! | |
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Coyote Country Queen
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| rodeomom3 - 2018-01-22 8:58 PM
Jenbabe - 2018-01-22 5:30 PM I deworm with an ivermectin after we get a good freeze in the winter. Then I deworm with a fenbendazole and a pyrantal pamoate once each during the rest of the year. I clean stalls daily and can keep a good eye on manure. Over the years I have rarely ever seen anything in their manure, however this year I did see bot fly larvae in almost every horse's pen after deworming. Bots were bad this year, and every horse had a bunch of eggs on them, so I suppose that could be the reason. I haven't checked with my vet yet, but am curious whether I should deworm again, or if I should feel okay that my dewormer did its job. We have never done fecals, but it is something I need to look in to.
I saw some last year in their manure, we did not hardly have a winter at all, worms and bugs were terrible. My vet had me worm with Ivermectin again in 2 weeks, nothing the 2nd time.
Thanks for that information! I initially thought that I should probably worm again just to make sure we got them all. But then I started wondering if I should just trust that my wormer worked! So I decided I better check with my vet, and just haven't stopped to make the phone call.
Last year we had a very mild winter, and it seemed like we never got rid of the bugs. When I wormed last year I only had one with the bot fly larvae in the manure, so was surprised to see it in almost all of them this year. We had a really hard freeze over almost an entire week this year, so I figured I'd be good to go ahead and worm. But then it warms back up and the flies come back out. I feel like I'm fighting a losing battle with flies! At least maybe it knocked them back a little so we aren't miserable in the summer. | |
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | madredepeanut - 2018-01-22 10:50 PM Chandler's Mom - 2018-01-22 6:51 PM madredepeanut - 2018-01-22 5:13 PM We do fecal egg counts and use that to dictate our deworming schedule. A LOT of people abuse dewormers and do them every 6 weeks or so, and that's one of the reasons we are seeing so much resistance to certain dewormers available on the market. Approximately 80% of the horses shed roughly 20% of the worms, and vice versa- 20% of the horses shed ~80% of the worms, so it is best to have a FEC done to learn what type of shedder your horses are, high or low, and base a deworming schedule on that. How often do fecals need to be done? We've always done the rotational worming, bought each horse the yearly package from Valley Vet. I know that's not recommended now, so wondering where to start on fecals and if we need to do it yearly, or monthly, or how often? I feel dumb for asking!!! I would call your local vet and see what they recommend as far as bringing a fecal sample in for them to examine. Depending on what they find, your pasture/boarding/stabling situation, plus your location, they should be able to give you an outline on how frequently to deworm, and what to use each time. Don't feel dumb at all, that's what this community is for! We are all here to help each other succeed
This is what i was curious about as well! My stalls are picked daily, but they also have run ins so are out most of the time so i never really know whos poo is whos, unless i see it fresh. Im at a someones barn/board. But my horses are never in with theirs, but we do rotate the turn out spots. Sometimes mine are in runs that go to one pasture and sometimes go in the other. idk if that would make a difference? I didnt worm for bots this winter after the first hard freeze (like ive read youre supposed to) so i was a little worried. Im just gonna have to hang around the barn this weekend and wait for fresh apples lol
Does anyone know how fresh it has to be?? My work schedule really hinders me from getting to the vet to drop one off. I might just have to take half a day if it comes down to it. | |
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Shelter Dog Lover
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| Jenbabe - 2018-01-22 10:26 PM rodeomom3 - 2018-01-22 8:58 PM Jenbabe - 2018-01-22 5:30 PM I deworm with an ivermectin after we get a good freeze in the winter. Then I deworm with a fenbendazole and a pyrantal pamoate once each during the rest of the year. I clean stalls daily and can keep a good eye on manure. Over the years I have rarely ever seen anything in their manure, however this year I did see bot fly larvae in almost every horse's pen after deworming. Bots were bad this year, and every horse had a bunch of eggs on them, so I suppose that could be the reason. I haven't checked with my vet yet, but am curious whether I should deworm again, or if I should feel okay that my dewormer did its job. We have never done fecals, but it is something I need to look in to. I saw some last year in their manure, we did not hardly have a winter at all, worms and bugs were terrible. My vet had me worm with Ivermectin again in 2 weeks, nothing the 2nd time. Thanks for that information! I initially thought that I should probably worm again just to make sure we got them all. But then I started wondering if I should just trust that my wormer worked! So I decided I better check with my vet, and just haven't stopped to make the phone call. Last year we had a very mild winter, and it seemed like we never got rid of the bugs. When I wormed last year I only had one with the bot fly larvae in the manure, so was surprised to see it in almost all of them this year. We had a really hard freeze over almost an entire week this year, so I figured I'd be good to go ahead and worm. But then it warms back up and the flies come back out. I feel like I'm fighting a losing battle with flies! At least maybe it knocked them back a little so we aren't miserable in the summer.
Same here, after our rare week of freezing
weather I received an email from a vet that it would be a good time to worm for bots. | |
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| Ohiobarrelracer - 2018-01-23 4:41 AM
madredepeanut - 2018-01-22 10:50 PM Chandler's Mom - 2018-01-22 6:51 PM madredepeanut - 2018-01-22 5:13 PM We do fecal egg counts and use that to dictate our deworming schedule. A LOT of people abuse dewormers and do them every 6 weeks or so, and that's one of the reasons we are seeing so much resistance to certain dewormers available on the market. Approximately 80% of the horses shed roughly 20% of the worms, and vice versa- 20% of the horses shed ~80% of the worms, so it is best to have a FEC done to learn what type of shedder your horses are, high or low, and base a deworming schedule on that. How often do fecals need to be done? We've always done the rotational worming, bought each horse the yearly package from Valley Vet. I know that's not recommended now, so wondering where to start on fecals and if we need to do it yearly, or monthly, or how often? I feel dumb for asking!!! I would call your local vet and see what they recommend as far as bringing a fecal sample in for them to examine. Depending on what they find, your pasture/boarding/stabling situation, plus your location, they should be able to give you an outline on how frequently to deworm, and what to use each time. Don't feel dumb at all, that's what this community is for! We are all here to help each other succeed
Does anyone know how fresh it has to be?? My work schedule really hinders me from getting to the vet to drop one off. I might just have to take half a day if it comes down to it.
We have had some fecal samples that were picked up by barn staff, and then the owners brought the samples in the next day. Depending on your location, weather, etc., your vet may want a fresher sample, or may say it's okay in the fridge for a day or two before you bring it in. I would call and get their protocol. If the barn staff can pick up some fecal balls from the stalls while they're picking them, that would be great, then you know which poop belongs to which horse. If horses (including others being boarded there) are all mingling together and have access to each other's manure piles, then I would definitely make sure you get a FEC done and make sure your horses are dewormed properly. If the barn owner doesn't have a requirement for deworming, then who knows what the other horses' parasite loads are like. The best you can do is take precautions with yours! | |
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| MAKE IT SIMPLE .. give the full tube ..
NEW YEARS ... QUEST kills everything good for 90 days
EASTER ... IVERMECTIN .. 60 days
4th of JULY ...
LABOR DAY...
HALLOWEEN ...
NEW YEARS ... REPEAT THE ABOVE ..
COST ..
QUEST $11
IVERMECTIN .. 4X$3 = $12 on sale at Jeffers
TOTAL .. $23/YEAR
JUST DO IT .. why mess around??
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | madredepeanut - 2018-01-23 7:05 PM Ohiobarrelracer - 2018-01-23 4:41 AM madredepeanut - 2018-01-22 10:50 PM Chandler's Mom - 2018-01-22 6:51 PM madredepeanut - 2018-01-22 5:13 PM We do fecal egg counts and use that to dictate our deworming schedule. A LOT of people abuse dewormers and do them every 6 weeks or so, and that's one of the reasons we are seeing so much resistance to certain dewormers available on the market. Approximately 80% of the horses shed roughly 20% of the worms, and vice versa- 20% of the horses shed ~80% of the worms, so it is best to have a FEC done to learn what type of shedder your horses are, high or low, and base a deworming schedule on that. How often do fecals need to be done? We've always done the rotational worming, bought each horse the yearly package from Valley Vet. I know that's not recommended now, so wondering where to start on fecals and if we need to do it yearly, or monthly, or how often? I feel dumb for asking!!! I would call your local vet and see what they recommend as far as bringing a fecal sample in for them to examine. Depending on what they find, your pasture/boarding/stabling situation, plus your location, they should be able to give you an outline on how frequently to deworm, and what to use each time. Don't feel dumb at all, that's what this community is for! We are all here to help each other succeed
Does anyone know how fresh it has to be?? My work schedule really hinders me from getting to the vet to drop one off. I might just have to take half a day if it comes down to it. We have had some fecal samples that were picked up by barn staff, and then the owners brought the samples in the next day. Depending on your location, weather, etc., your vet may want a fresher sample, or may say it's okay in the fridge for a day or two before you bring it in. I would call and get their protocol. If the barn staff can pick up some fecal balls from the stalls while they're picking them, that would be great, then you know which poop belongs to which horse. If horses (including others being boarded there ) are all mingling together and have access to each other's manure piles, then I would definitely make sure you get a FEC done and make sure your horses are dewormed properly. If the barn owner doesn't have a requirement for deworming, then who knows what the other horses' parasite loads are like. The best you can do is take precautions with yours!
Well, im the only boarder lol the rest are the owners horses but they are still all seperated. Mine stay together and thats it. Im not sure on their worming schedule but i know they do worm. Ill have to give my vet a call today, Thanks for all your help!! | |
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | BARRELHORSE USA - 2018-01-24 12:52 AM MAKE IT SIMPLE .. give the full tube .. NEW YEARS ... QUEST kills everything good for 90 days EASTER ... IVERMECTIN .. 60 days 4th of JULY ... LABOR DAY... HALLOWEEN ... NEW YEARS ... REPEAT THE ABOVE .. COST .. QUEST $11 IVERMECTIN .. 4X$3 = $12 on sale at Jeffers TOTAL .. $23/YEAR JUST DO IT .. why mess around?? Because i want to deworm for what my horses actually need and not just take a guess and also not waste my money if its not needed. Lord knows i already waste enough on them. 
Edited by Ohiobarrelracer 2018-01-24 6:55 AM
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The One
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Location: South Georgia | I'd just rather be safe than sorry. I board at a facility with many horses and I cannot be certain that all owners take the same care I do.
Also, in the past, I had a halter horse who really looked horrible. My local vet ran a fecal and nothing came back alarming. Her condition did not improve. I had University of Florida scope her and they found a heavy load of parasites. I had to Powerpack her. After that she was fine. If I had offered a better worming rotation (like I now do), she wouldn't have experienced what she did. Its easy. It's affordable. I worm on a rotational schedule.
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