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| What would be your suggestions for a bit for a horse that is pretty ratey but can be too bendy in a turn. Need something that maybe doesn't have much movement to it to keep him straighter in his turns but do not need hardly any whoa to it. Right now I'm running him in something that is similar to a pozzi lifter bit but has twisted wire snaffle as the mouth piece. I think it has too much movement probably too much lift |
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| Try a Jim Warner hackamore |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Try a hack? My favorite is the Little S. Basically like riding in a halter. I have a Stivers hack that I don't use anymore if your interested. |
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| Connie Combs stabilizer bit. Short shank would probably work best if your horse tends to be ratey and soft. The Josey Go Around has some lift (little bit of gag) but it tends to work wonders on an over bendy horse and gets them finishing a turn a little sharper for me. A lot of the over bending can be corrected with drills / exercises. |
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Location: Montana | My thought was a hack as well, and I've heard a lot of good things about the little S hack, never tried one myself (yet) though. |
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| my vote goes to Jim Warner first and Little S second. I personally love the Jim Warner. |
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Location: Tennessee | I used a Quick Bit like Charmayne used on Scamper when my cow bred mare got too bendy, it really helped a lot to keep her off of barrels. |
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| Thanks for the info! I wouldn't mind trying a hack on him again (I tried a little S on him before and he would always get by the first) which is really suprising because he is so ratey. He does tend to fall on his front end too which is why I have always used some sort of lifter type of bit. Would a hackamore make this worse? He does not need any help stopping in the alley so I don't have to worry about that |
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| Also what excerises should I be looking at? He tends to be ratey but at the same time dropping in to turn then picking himself back up if that makes sense. I want him to run to his spot before dropping down. He doesn't shoulder his barrels though |
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| I think l and w sells them as well carolina bit, add wadell rides a colt bit it is a fat mouth piece mullen mouth bit it does not have loose cheeks and its got a 4 inch shank it wil stiffen one up, and he uses it, i used to ride a mare with it during the week at shows i would ride with a chain lifter bit. It is most likly on their website or call then if ypu dont like hacks and the horse is fairly light mouthed this i sure will work. I dont have anything to,use it on but if someone offered me what i paid for i would not sell it. My mare i would do bending exercises with it because it would stiffen her up and put chain on her she would be so,light it was great. |
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| Mullen mouth all the way. Hacks will still stiffen one up but I've had better luck with a mullen |
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| I'm so glad I'm not the only one who was going to throw out a mullen mouth!
I pulled my 14 yr old out of the pasture 2 years ago after 10 years of being mostly a pony ride horse. He was always ridden in a hack and to tell the truth, I'm not sure he was ever really started in a bit. We struggled for the past couple years with finding a bit he really liked. He'll run through a hack, but just feels resistant in everything else I've tried. Finally bought a Josey Go Around and I love him in it. I also invested in a Myler D Ring comfort snaffle for everyday work, he loves that as well. It's the first bit I've really felt like he's "seeking" contact with. |
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Location: Somewhere around here | RoadToVegas - 2014-01-08 5:31 PM
Thanks for the info! I wouldn't mind trying a hack on him again (I tried a little S on him before and he would always get by the first) which is really suprising because he is so ratey. He does tend to fall on his front end too which is why I have always used some sort of lifter type of bit. Would a hackamore make this worse? He does not need any help stopping in the alley so I don't have to worry about that
My horse does this in a little S on him as well but I put a Jim W. on him and he seems to have done much better. My horse sounds a lot like yours too, too bendy and somehow you need him to stiffen up. You might want to try a bit with a mullen mouthpiece or a small port. I would only use it for barrel runs though to keep him soft in everyday riding. |
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| Ok after reading up on them a little bit I really want to try a short shank Mullen mouth. Sounds like what he needs. Where can I get one used or fairly cheap?? |
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Location: Idahome | I like a tender touch with leather curb strap for my gelding like this. |
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| short shank something you can also square up a horse and loosen them up by the chinstrap, the tighter the curb the more square the bit becomes |
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| Also I want one like listed on barrel horse news article favorite bits. The one pictured does not have the rubber over the mouthpiece. I would rather have one just plain without the rubber |
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| Well, they make several kinds. Fixed mouth and one that swivels in the corners are what I have used. I'll have to go out to the trailer tomorrow and look for a bit stamp. Haven't used them in years but I retired the mare I rode with them.
Edited to say: I'd go copper wrap but that's just me. Both mine are.
Edited by barreldude 2014-01-09 11:57 PM
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| Check out some of the used tack pages on Facebook, I've picked up some cheap but well made bits there. I guess what's cheap to you? A good bit is worth the money to have it function properly... |
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