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| New horse has ulcers and vet recommends at least 2 weeks with full dose ulcer guard. If not 28days...when I seen 27.00 a dose I about  .....is there any other effective way that is a little more wallet friendly? |
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 Don't Wanna Make This Awkward
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Location: Texas | Uguard and succeed.. It's worth it the first time around and after that I would give just the human omeprazole pills you can buy in bulk at costco. Give 11 pills for 2 weeks I think(hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong cause im about to start mine on it) I just use the omeprazole pills as a preventative though. |
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Location: Montana | Oxy-gen makes a great product for ulcers. They have a paste which is a about $20-$25 a tube I believe up to 4 doses per tube. And they have a pellet supplement that's like $300+- for a six month supply. |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | 2 cups of aloe Vera juice once a day. |
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Location: Texas | outrundaizy - 2014-11-24 11:14 PM
Uguard and succeed.. It's worth it the first time around and after that I would give just the human omeprazole pills you can buy in bulk at costco. Give 11 pills for 2 weeks I think(hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong cause im about to start mine on it) I just use the omeprazole pills as a preventative though.
This is what I would do. I have had great success with it and it is way cheaper than Ulcergard. I've bought the Prilosec OTC capsules and opened them up, put them in some water till they dissolved, and gave as a drench. It worked great. I gave 8 pills once daily for 12 days, then 1/2 the dosage for maintenance. I think that pasture turn out helps tremendously too. If you can't turn out then make sure that they always have some good quality hay in front of them along with plenty of water and a salt block.
Good luck!
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Location: Lost in the corn of Iowa. | Go on Amazon and you can get the generic omeprazole in bottle of 100+ for under $20. |
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| So here's the deal with omeprazole:
It's extremely fragile. I can't quote all the chemistry blah blah blah stuff, I just know that it has to be mixed with a buffer that protects it long enough to make it to the part of the digestive system where it is absorbed.
When you get the over the counter stuff, it has little to no effect.
I've used them all. The Oxy tubes that I spent a fortune on didn't even make a dent in my very miserable gelding.
Maalox, 80 mL is good to give them to put the fire out until you get the good stuff.
I wouldn't even look at anything else (in fact I don't any more) I just choke and gag and order the ulcergard.
Make sure you have him on a good probiotic paste throughout his healing ordeal. Forco is an awesome supplement to help the bugs reinstate themselves that were probably messed up during acidic conditions in the stomach. Nevertoold here on BHW is a dealer and is super wonderful to work with. She also is very knowledgeable about the digestive system and has taught me SO much.
Make sure to get a good after treatment supplement going on about day 5. I've had fantastic luck with SmartGI Ultra. I've heard good things about Succeed as well.
10 days is a good start on the full tube of Ulcergard depending on the grade of ulcers. For big ulcers, better just man up and treat them. Just remember that upon stopping treatment, the stomach will be back in overdrive in a compensatory reaction. That's why a really good ulcer preventative is necessary.
Good luck!
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Location: Central Texas | Thistle I sent you a pm |
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Location: In my own world | I read an article the other day posted on FB by a vet. Studies have been done that show that a half to a 1/4 of a tube of ulcer guard or gastro do as much good as a whole tube. Might try googling the article |
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Location: Beggs, OK | I had a horse shipped in that had the obvious signs of ulcers. Depressed, no appetite, drawn up in the flanks, etc. My vet had me give him a 1/4 of a tube of Gastrogard for 28 days. By day four he was hungry! He looks great now and shows no signs of ulcers. That was 7 tubes and cost me $280, then you can send in for a $5 rebate per tube, so it ends up $245 to heal the existing ulcers. You can then start giving a daily ulcer preventative. I wouldn't mess around with anything other than Gastrogard or Ulcergard to get them healed up though...you'll end up wasting money and having to go buy the good stuff anyway.
Edited by rachellyn80 2014-11-25 9:00 AM
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Location: NE Texas | I've had really good luck with Ranitidine from my vet. It was $50 for a 30 day supply. |
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| I have been doing 10 - 14 days on a 1/4 tube of ulcer guard I have also used Prilosec 11-12 pills once a day. I bring them in to separate and feed them 4 times a day mostly alfalfa hay and add some sr feed so I can add in a few things while they heal. I have been using U7 from finish line, a good probiotic, electrolytes and have done aloe on one as well. So far I have had very good results. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Herbie - 2014-11-25 9:04 AM
I've had really good luck with Ranitidine from my vet. It was $50 for a 30 day supply.
We've done this and had good results. Still a fan of the ulcergard if you can get it. We use the ranitidine mainly as preventative. My girl is also on forco and her feed has probiotics. |
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| my horse was scoped he had grade 3 ulcers one a 1-3 scale.. The vet gave me a script for omiprazol and I marched down to Costco and got it.. Way cheaper than ulcergaurd.. And it WORKED had him scoped again and no ulcers found.. I also use the over the counter ratitadine.. It's like 12 bucks for two bottles and if I remember right a bottle lasts 1 1/2 days |
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The Advice Guru
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| Papaya puréed
If you have access to pub med there are a few classical research articles that my vet showed me proving papaya puréed can heal ulcers.
I had one mare with symptoms I gave her 1/4 increasing 1/2 cup with her feed daily for 30 days, all her symptoms resolved. |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | This is a good article
http://www.doctorramey.com/use-less-ulcer-medication/ |
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Location: Texas | Gastroade and nutrient buffer Big Dees |
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Famous for Not Complaining
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Another one............
http://www.doctorramey.com/ulcers-are-giving-me-ulcers/ |
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Location: Willows, CA | I don't think there is an effective short cut to ulcers that are established. You spend the money and cure the ulcers. Going forward once you do that is a different issue. The most cost effective way to handle ulcers is not to get them in the first place. Limit grain based feed and keep a roughage source available to them as consistently as possible. It is VITAL that they are able to comfortably chew the roughage that you provide. That means that teeth need to be kept in proper condition. This is the most neglected issue I see in horses that should not be getting ulcers, but do. Properly chewed roughage and the saliva created when this happens is the natural buffer to stomach acid. Just because they are on pasture or have hay available full time does not mean that they eat it and chew it properly. This is the first line of defense in preventing ulcers in a management program, and seldom considered. |
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