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Location: 31 lengths farms | My 9 year old mare started having some issues last summer with her hooves chipping and cracking especially at the heel. She and my other 2 are all on the same basic nutritional plan, Forco, Barley, Renew Gold, and Alfalfa/grass hay with some time spent in the pasture a few days a week. The Renew Gold I started late last fall, Forco last summer. The other two's feet look amazing and usually the gelding is the one with issues. The only other difference is this mare is the one that injured her stifle a few years back and had to be put on Previcoxx long term which she is now off of unless we are making a run. I use the same farrier on all of them, they are done usually every 8 weeks though this time due to rain it was more like 9 weeks. We noticed the issue starting late last summer, just really dry shelly hooves and most notably the issue showed up in the chipping on her heels. He is leaving a bit of a "trailer" for lack of better words to try to protect the heel and give it more support. He said last summer when it first showed up that he felt her heel was contracting a bit and said that the hoof tends to follow the shoe. I had changed shoers the year before because the x-shoer was taking too much sole off the gelding and had him in general too short and all of them in a size smaller shoe than they had been wearing when he started. Dont' know if the issue is the Previcoxx and it is just now showing up or from the too small shoe, too short, too pared out sole over time or something else entirely. We also went from extremely dry conditions to 6 inches of mud in about 5 days recently so now their feet are soft on top of everything...
Supplements, hoof dressing, thoughts? |
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The Advice Guru
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| I give biotin, and milk powder, plus give flax in their feed. I also put fish oil on at the cornet band. |
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Balance Beam and more...
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Milk Powder? and how many grams or whatever of Biotin are needed ? want to make sure I get a product that is sufficient... |
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Location: Texas | I use Knox geliten that you get from grocery store it's cheap and works great,it also help their mane and tail grow. |
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| run n rate - 2014-03-14 1:22 PM
Milk Powder? and how many grams or whatever of Biotin are needed ? want to make sure I get a product that is sufficient...
I give 1/2 cup of milk powder twice daily. This helps thicken up the hoof wall.
For biotin, I give whatever the suggested serving is, mine comes with a scoop and it is pure biotin, no fillers |
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Balance Beam and more...
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Location: 31 lengths farms | HOw long to see results on either program? |
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Location: northeast | Coconut oil! |
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Balance Beam and more...
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Location: 31 lengths farms | On them or in them Junior? And the Renew Gold is made with Coconut...does that count? |
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Location: bring on the heat, NV | Fiebings hoof oil results in 2-4 weeks, supplement try horseshoers secret or THE hoof. You need more than just biotin. Its really a combo of I think 3 methsomehting and thesomething too.  Nope those are not in the dictionary.... |
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The Advice Guru
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| run n rate - 2014-03-14 3:14 PM
HOw long to see results on either program?
Biotin just makes the foot grow faster, the milk powder 6 weeks.
Fish oil my vet noticed a difference in a week on my one horse. |
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Location: mi | per my vet you need 3 things in a supplement Biotin, Zinc and DL Metholine (or some such word) he says just pick one with a 3 of those and it should help. I also grabbed a container of Hoof Alive to hit from the outside as well as a feed through on the inside. I think I am seeing results from both. |
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Location: Nebraska | with my mare, adding more fat into her diet helped a lot. I'm feeding strategy and amplify and supplementing with Forco and Lubrisyn. I also changed farriers right after I started feeding the fat so I don't know which helped her the most but her feet look great. Before they were so shelly, the outside would chip off and her shoes would just get loose and fall right off. |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | All of them look really good coat wise too... I've been told Hoof Alive by several so I think I'll head that way for the outside. Check into biotin, zinc and the other one and see what supplements might have all of them and hit her with gelatin in the meantime. Still not sure what you mean by milk powder... Powdered milk, a milk replAcement, just not sure??? |
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| I have been using horse shoer's secret for a year now and my horse still have weak hoof walls that are chipping. Going the try Farriers Formula next. |
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Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | I have a mare who has pitiful hooves. I've had good results with Finish Line Feet First and DAC Foundation Formula. Both are reasonably priced for how long they last.
As for a hoof oil, the only one I've had good luck with is Worlds Best Hoof Oil. I hate the name but the company that makes it is from Austrailia so I look past the name. And I've tried dozens of hoof oils.
I used to feed CocaSoya Oil every day and although I saw results overall with all my horses I fed it to, it never helped my the hooves on this mare. I also fed Animal Element Detox for a year to this mare and although it really helped her fill out her topline, I still saw no results with her hooves improving. |
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Location: Texas | 2 packets of Knox gelatin a day works wonders |
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Location: Canada | I swear by Biotin. I had one horse that his feet were awful (chip, crack, weak walls) when I got him and now he's got tough hard feet and the only thing I changed was adding Biotin to his feed.
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Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | Something else that helped my mare, who is still barefoot, I have my farrier put her pfont feet on his pedastal stand and he files the ends of her toes under. it has made a huge difference in her feet not chipping so bad. |
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Location: TN | I give one pack of Knox gelatin a day and it works great! |
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| I have a gelding who I tried a few different things on for his hooves( that were awful)- nothing worked until I started animal element detox and in 6 weeks he really had some good change- he has been on the detox for about 1 1/2 years now and my farrier says his feet are awesome- I called michelle at animal element and asked her why did none of the other stuff work for him when it seems to work for other horses- and she said that the detox removes the junk out of the body so that the supplements can get where they are suppose to -alls I can say is it did wonders for my boys feet- not just either really helped all over! love that stuff |
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