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| Ok I took my mare to the vet 3 weeks ago for her teeth and a routine lameness exam/ flexion test that I have done about once every 3-4 months because I am PARANOID lol. Anyways, she came up "tender" on a left rear suspensory. I started Nutrawound and BOT wraps that night. 2 weeks later I take her back to the vet and the vet said what he saw the few weeks before was gone and that I could go back to my normal riding and he just gave me special instructions for when I ride and when I run to keep any issues from coming up in the future.
Here's my delima: in the 2 weeks she had off she was being Dr.d twice a day and turned out. She ran and bucked and played the whole time. Vet said that was fine. One day I had her in the arena lose just trotting around smelling the breeze and I swear I saw her give to a front leg. Like be very slightly lame on the front somewhere. She just looked off. Very slight bob of the head, just didn't look "normal" I only saw it for about 5-6 strides. Then I couldn't see it again. I blew it off and she flexed good at the vet when he rechecked her so I passed it off as maybe a rock in her foot or me being crazy.
-yesterday I rode and just walked, trotted and loped all of like 2 circles both ways after her wearing the BOT wraps for 10-15 mins and Ice Tight her legs after I rode. After, I turned her out in the pasture because it wasn't time to feed and about an hour later I swear I saw the limp again. Again, it only lasted about 5-6 strides but I swear I saw it. It was very small, minor bob of the head and at a trot again. This morning I went over her fronts with a fine tooth comb. The only thing I found was a small like smaller than the tip of my pinky lump on the inside of her splint bone like maybe a spur? (teeny tiny) The only other thing I can come up with is her feet (IMO) are crappily done right now. I was going through farriers like underwear trying to find one that gave a crap about the foot he was trimming before I moved, now that I'm moved I have yet to have them done because they aren't due. She had her feet trimmed 3 weeks ago.
thanks in advance- maybe I'm just paranoid....
ETA fixed my typos
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| Coffin bone is in the foot, no way to see it without X-rays.
If you are talking splint bone, if there is a lump she has done damage to the splint bone, could be bruise, or fracture. |
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| Have her feet checked. I just went through this with my good mare. A Shoer can really mess you up. Finally found a good one. |
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| Thank you, both of you. yes you are correct, splint bone, I don't know why I was thinking coffin. I would like to see about having shoes put on her but hell if they just level her feet how could I trust someone to tack on shoes properly?? |
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| Where do you live? Also take some pics of her feet and put them on here. Someone might be able to help with the feet issue. |
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Location: sunny california | a warning about nutrawound
I have used this in the past and it worked so good on a mare that had a bowed tendon and literally sucked the swelling out. she started to appear to be healed after only 10 days. She still needed to be rested and treated and rehabbed properly. but I can see how this product could fool you into thinking their isn't a problem. once you get diagnosis I would treat with the nutrawound but continue with the protocol for the given injury and resist going back to work too early. |
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Location: Texas | Okay first things first. This is all jmo but Ive been through farriers and vets like crazy. Also torn/stressed suspensories and lots of lameness due to farriers mostly.
My farrier now is a truly a blessing from God, he works on some of the best horses and is known as a lameness farrier.
Anyways my mare came up with a bobble after bringing her back from founder. It was the first 4-6 steps a slight off then she was fine. So right away I gathered up my farrier and we went to the vet. We went over her with a fine comb and found an old suspensory tear I'm a sonogram (talk about feel like hell I didn't know she had ever torn ;( )
Anyways this was causing short stepping. So my farrier adjusted her angles slightly and I sent her to swim. This horse is a new horse
Now I'd really focus on finding a lameness farrier you can trust and who has a good record with ppl.
It all starts with a sore suspensory and then next thing you know it's torn, and 90% of suspensory tears and stress stems directly from bad feet angles from shoeing |
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| I would consider xrays on her fronts to check the coffin bone and find a good farrier who will look at the X-rays when he trims her. We had a young gelding start showing lameness as we started to work him harder - turns out the angles in his foot bones were different from the angles he was being trimmed on. Minutely, but it was enough. Sound as a dollar after a good balanced trim. |
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| Thanks everyone! I will definitely go to hunting a good farrier. Also I do hear the Nutrawound thing. I was amazed at the fact that she flexed normal 2 weeks later. I considered continuing to lay off or at least taking it easy for a another few weeks. |
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| bump for whomever knows feet. Thank you.
Also my mom mentioned something while I was taking pictures. When I was having my good farrier do her feet and I wasn't having any issues she had less toe. Not quite more heel but she didn't have "long" looking feet like she does now. They were more petite and round and well, balanced.... 0.O
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Location: Texas | Just an FYI horses have little buttons at the tips of their splint bones, so if you are feeling down the leg and as you go down you suddenly feel a little bump where the splint bone is, that's normal. Not sure if thats what you felt or not. |
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| casualdust07 - 2014-03-16 10:38 PM
Just an FYI horses have little buttons at the tips of their splint bones, so if you are feeling down the leg and as you go down you suddenly feel a little bump where the splint bone is, that's normal. Not sure if thats what you felt or not.
It's funny that you say that because I went back over both legs tonight an I found exactly what your talking about on both legs. I could not find anything out of the ordinary like I did this morning. I'm assuming that when I checked out her legs this morning I was mistaken due to the 2 hours of sleep then working the night shift o.0 |
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Location: North MS | On the hooves- the rear feet have the heel more under run than the fronts. They are not horrible by any means, but the heel seems to need to be a bit further back. Front feet seemed a bit stretched forward/long with a bit more under run than the rears. Once again- not horrible. I advise relax- you need another horse so you will worry over this one less. Have fun! Less vets! Add in another discipline for variation. |
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| bluerose2001 - 2014-03-17 12:17 AM
On the hooves- the rear feet have the heel more under run than the fronts. They are not horrible by any means, but the heel seems to need to be a bit further back. Front feet seemed a bit stretched forward/long with a bit more under run than the rears. Once again- not horrible. I advise relax- you need another horse so you will worry over this one less. Have fun! Less vets! Add in another discipline for variation.
Lol thank you so much. I completely agree about heels on rears and toes on fronts. I am a big worry wort over her. |
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| It looks like to me that she is high on the inside on her right front. Look at the coronary band if the hoof is balanced and level it should be even. Also make sure your Shoer is looking at your horse track. And doesn't just look at the hoof while he is holding it. But on the ground. That is the only way to get a truly level and balanced foot. |
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| So this may be a dumb question or may not even get noticed but do y'all think her feet are off enough to cause this much of a ruckus? |
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| If her feet are not balanced and level then she will be sore. No foot no horse. Most lameness issues start with the feet. |
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | I've seen way worse feet thats for sure. She isn't terribly unbalanced. Look at that big hole in her frog on left hind. I would vote thrush go to digging in there and I bet you'll find a really sore spot. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | RoaniePonie11 - 2014-03-16 10:26 PM bump for whomever knows feet. Thank you. Also my mom mentioned something while I was taking pictures. When I was having my good farrier do her feet and I wasn't having any issues she had less toe. Not quite more heel but she didn't have "long" looking feet like she does now. They were more petite and round and well, balanced.... 0.O
And this very well could be. Why did you switch shoers? We just went through this with one of ours. On and off lameness and just being "off". Long story short, we took her to a lameness specialist and it was def. in her feet. Turned out the angle of her coffin bone was tipped so if she had the slightest bit of toe, it was putting pressure and actually tipped up, not down.
He injected the coffin bone, and he and the shoer re-shod her according to the x-rays and then re-xrayed her inbetween, and at the end of her shoeing. She has not taken a lame step since and we have her go in every other shoeing to be re-xrayed to make sure she is staying on track with the shoer.
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| Thanks everyone!! I switched because I moved. Should I X-ray all 4? I know silly question but will/ could the coffin be different in all 4?? |
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