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| My friend is looking at a nice gelding, currently a head horse. He is 10 yrs old and very broke and actually very calm and kind. As soon as you get on him he wants to go, go go. Not bad at all, just ready. She loves everything about him except he will not walk. It's a comfortable jog type, but he literally will not walk. He will stand quietly, lope pretty circles, etc.
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| Depends on the person. Personally that annoys the crap out of me. | |
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| We bought one like this, daughter could not get him to trot to save her life. He just wanted to run, she had to constantly hang on his mouth. We sent him to our trainer for 30 days, came back a differerent horse. She said he stayed tied with saddle on till he figured it out. She gave daughter instructions to spin him and make him work harder if he didn't do as asked. She emphasized no yanking or pulling but give him the choice to work harder or do as asked. He ended up being a real sweetie and a pleasure to ride. So I would say, not a deal breaker if he has everything else she wants and she doesn't mind working on him. | |
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| Thanks! She's trying to tell herself it won't really bug her, but I know she likes to walk around at the barrel races, and I can see it getting old.
I like the idea of seeing if a trainer could "fix" it, but the roper owner says he has always done this...maybe! | |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | I had one that just started that crap completely out of the blue, never did it before. Had a nice quiet lope, would trot for miles but would not walk at all. Turns out he had a badly torn suspensory and that little bit of extra extension of that hind leg at a walk would hurt him but he could hit a little jog and keep the strain off that one spot.
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| Skeetersmom - 2014-09-03 10:16 PM
Thanks! She's trying to tell herself it won't really bug her, but I know she likes to walk around at the barrel races, and I can see it getting old.
I like the idea of seeing if a trainer could "fix" it, but the roper owner says he has always done this...maybe!
Our horse was 11 when we bought him, had the same owner since he was 3. He was spoiled to say the least, she hauled his pasture buddy with him to every race just so he would not be alone, aced him to go to the vet. She let us leave a check and we hauled him home but we had to wait 2 days for him to settle down before we could get him to cooperate for the vet check. I had thoughts we were crazy buying a horse like this for our daughter but something told me it was not who he really was but what he had been taught to be, luckily I was right, not a mean bone in his body and one of the best horses we own. He is the one in my ANHA pole post. I have been only riding for 4 or 5 years and I can ride him. Good luck! | |
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Location: Phoenix | Mine is like that. He'll walk, eventually. I had to learn how to ride him and not be on his mouth. I really have to ride with my seat. Making him work harder doesn't work. I've found a low starch diet and sometimes doing two-a-days really helps calm him down and make him more manageable. | |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Making them do lateral movements when they go to jig will help them walk as well.
BUT... the real question is she the type to work with one and can she be really consistent in what she's doing? If not, then she needs to look at something else.
Some people like to work with one, others just like to get on and ride and not work. | |
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Location: NW. Florida | I had one that I started the pattern on after awhile she started this crap after a run. I would take her in the next drag and let her soak in the alleyway. She would just do it after a run. After a run I would give her the opportunity to walk back to the trailer, if not I would turn her around and back her up about 50' then turn her around and give her the opportunity to walk again. If she still wanted to jig we would back up again. After about 3 times of that she figured it was easier to walk back to the trailer. | |
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| I think she would work at it. I was kinda the one telling her I didn't think he'd ever quit. Thanks for the replies, you guys are awesome! | |
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| I have one that doesn't quite jig but is always waiting for any hint that you just might ask her to go or sometimes starts to quicken her steps but slows when your body doesn't follow. She used to just take off trotting when I got her. Her old owner wanted a trail horse and couldn't get her to walk. I think she will always have the constant want to go but at least I have her to where she will not trot when your body says no! But she's always checking to make sure you didn't say to speed up lol | |
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| I've known 2 horses that were "jiggers" lol....One was a friends roping horse, he would not walk or trot when I first got on him! It was either jigging or loping. After a week of being calm and consistent and A LOT of half halts, got a beautiful extended trot from him and very fast walk. Nothing slow though that's for sure. I would get him going good then the owner would get back on and take to a rodeo and he'd be back to his old ways and I'd have to start all over again. Another was a finished barrel horse and he wouldn't walk EVER, it was never a fast jig but always did it, even at home. Every horse is different, some you may be able to work out of. Depends on if that kind of thing annoys her, some people it doesn't bother and you just get used to it. | |
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Location: Midwest | Not something that bothers me. I get more irritated with a horse that won't stand still. | |
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Location: SoCal | barrelracr131 - 2014-09-06 8:55 AM
Not something that bothers me. I get more irritated with a horse that won't stand still.
This. So long as they stand still when I ask them to stop, I could care less. My young mare knows better than to jig, so if she tries it, I stop her, drop my hand, and she knows she needs to walk out. My gelding jigs everywhere at shows and only walks out after he's been put to work. But, if I stop him, he plants his feet.
Strange thing with my mare is the more you choke her up, the hotter she gets. If you just drop your hand and bump her back when she starts speeding up, then she slows right down and walks out. When I first got her, I'd left her out with friends while I ran inside to get a water, and came out to find one of the guys who had a little much to drink on her, and she kept jigging with him, as soon as I told him to just drop his hand, she went right to walk.
Every horse is different, some get even hotter if you make them work. If you have one like that, making them stop and just calm down is the best thing, if they won't stand, then I like "one-rein stops" and then flexing. Gets their minds off of it all and also can get them really soft in the face. If they get quieter the more you work them, then back them up, make them do figure 8s, ect to get them calmed down. My grandma always would make me do circles and changes of direction when my horses would get wound up when I was little, because you'd be moving their feet and changing directions, so they had to pay attention to that instead of whatever was bothering them. Just depends on the horse, as some never get hot. Personally, so long as they stop and stand when I ask for them to, I'm a happy camper and don't mind the jigs. | |
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barrelracr131 - 2014-09-06 8:55 AM
Not something that bothers me. I get more irritated with a horse that won't stand still.
This. So long as they stand still when I ask them to stop, I could care less. My young mare knows better than to jig, so if she tries it, I stop her, drop my hand, and she knows she needs to walk out. My gelding jigs everywhere at shows and only walks out after he's been put to work. But, if I stop him, he plants his feet.
Strange thing with my mare is the more you choke her up, the hotter she gets. If you just drop your hand and bump her back when she starts speeding up, then she slows right down and walks out. When I first got her, I'd left her out with friends while I ran inside to get a water, and came out to find one of the guys who had a little much to drink on her, and she kept jigging with him, as soon as I told him to just drop his hand, she went right to walk.
Every horse is different, some get even hotter if you make them work. If you have one like that, making them stop and just calm down is the best thing, if they won't stand, then I like "one-rein stops" and then flexing. Gets their minds off of it all and also can get them really soft in the face. If they get quieter the more you work them, then back them up, make them do figure 8s, ect to get them calmed down. My grandma always would make me do circles and changes of direction when my horses would get wound up when I was little, because you'd be moving their feet and changing directions, so they had to pay attention to that instead of whatever was bothering them. Just depends on the horse, as some never get hot. Personally, so long as they stop and stand when I ask for them to, I'm a happy camper and don't mind the jigs.
I have one like this right now. He's 15, a solid 1D horse at big stuff, has placed 2 times in the 1D at the NBHA world in recent years, and lots of other big shows and rodeos. He is NOT fun to ride around, but he is very easy on the pattern. He has been entered 6 times in the last 3 weeks and has been in the top 4 of the 1D all 6 times....BUT....he is VERY hot outside, and he wants to get in there and do his job. He doesn't refuse, but he will try to take off and go run. He WILL stand still by the alleyway and wait, but if he's near the alleyway and moving, you'd better be ready for him to take off. Now with that said, at 62 I can't ride that caliber of horse any more. He slingshots me off around the barrels he's so quick....I have him for sale and I warn EVERYONE what he's like before they ever get there. Had one today that actually handled him quite well, and he made one heck of a run. Then she told me she wanted to try all the ones out there to explore her options. Grrrr.....this horse is priced about half or less of what most horses his caliber are priced because of this quirk....and then I get this. Idk what to do. All I've gotten so far are people that want to joy ride and see what an expensive horse is like.....He's older, and set in his ways, and he wins....he would never hurt you or even come off the ground. But he will sure hippity hop and trit trot and loping circles is impossible. Fixing him would take so long he'd probably be dead by then (even if you could)....I'm frustrated. | |
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| dianeguinn - 2014-09-06 4:49 PM
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barrelracr131 - 2014-09-06 8:55 AM
Not something that bothers me. I get more irritated with a horse that won't stand still.
This. So long as they stand still when I ask them to stop, I could care less. My young mare knows better than to jig, so if she tries it, I stop her, drop my hand, and she knows she needs to walk out. My gelding jigs everywhere at shows and only walks out after he's been put to work. But, if I stop him, he plants his feet.
Strange thing with my mare is the more you choke her up, the hotter she gets. If you just drop your hand and bump her back when she starts speeding up, then she slows right down and walks out. When I first got her, I'd left her out with friends while I ran inside to get a water, and came out to find one of the guys who had a little much to drink on her, and she kept jigging with him, as soon as I told him to just drop his hand, she went right to walk.
Every horse is different, some get even hotter if you make them work. If you have one like that, making them stop and just calm down is the best thing, if they won't stand, then I like "one-rein stops" and then flexing. Gets their minds off of it all and also can get them really soft in the face. If they get quieter the more you work them, then back them up, make them do figure 8s, ect to get them calmed down. My grandma always would make me do circles and changes of direction when my horses would get wound up when I was little, because you'd be moving their feet and changing directions, so they had to pay attention to that instead of whatever was bothering them. Just depends on the horse, as some never get hot. Personally, so long as they stop and stand when I ask for them to, I'm a happy camper and don't mind the jigs.
I have one like this right now. He's 15, a solid 1D horse at big stuff, has placed 2 times in the 1D at the NBHA world in recent years, and lots of other big shows and rodeos. He is NOT fun to ride around, but he is very easy on the pattern. He has been entered 6 times in the last 3 weeks and has been in the top 4 of the 1D all 6 times....BUT....he is VERY hot outside, and he wants to get in there and do his job. He doesn't refuse, but he will try to take off and go run. He WILL stand still by the alleyway and wait, but if he's near the alleyway and moving, you'd better be ready for him to take off. Now with that said, at 62 I can't ride that caliber of horse any more. He slingshots me off around the barrels he's so quick....I have him for sale and I warn EVERYONE what he's like before they ever get there. Had one today that actually handled him quite well, and he made one heck of a run. Then she told me she wanted to try all the ones out there to explore her options. Grrrr.....this horse is priced about half or less of what most horses his caliber are priced because of this quirk....and then I get this. Idk what to do. All I've gotten so far are people that want to joy ride and see what an expensive horse is like.....He's older, and set in his ways, and he wins....he would never hurt you or even come off the ground. But he will sure hippity hop and trit trot and loping circles is impossible. Fixing him would take so long he'd probably be dead by then (even if you could )....I'm frustrated.
Diane I would think this type would work for a lot of people. Those that are in it to compete and win. I think lots of girls just want to go and place. I look for the opposite when I shop, we ranch ride and our horses are pets that we do everything with. That said, I always establish that over the phone before I look.
To everyone else, thank you so much for the feedback! I think she's going to go for it. He will stand like a statue, but when you say go, he's definitely gettin jiggy with it lol! | |
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Location: Oklahoma | You would think, but so far, not having any luck. Get lots of offers to haul him for me, though. :/
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Location: Carpenter, WY | Teehaha has done jigging that for all of her 30 years. She gets in a rhythm and can go all day and forever like that. She isn't hard to control at all, but it seems like it's just a comfortable way for her to travel. You can kind of see it in this video clip near the beginning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlsgEK6dYKg
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | teehaha - 2014-09-07 11:14 AM Teehaha has done jigging that for all of her 30 years. She gets in a rhythm and can go all day and forever like that. She isn't hard to control at all, but it seems like it's just a comfortable way for her to travel. You can kind of see it in this video clip near the beginning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlsgEK6dYKg
I had a mare like that. The guy that raised and broke her was an old rancher/roper and he never walked his horses, just got on and jogged them off. She would do a smooth relaxed little jog trot on a loose rein all day long. I could get her to walk, but she would be constantly trying to ease back into her little jog, so I didn't fight with her. Her work ethic and attitude were outstanding, I didn't see the point in picking at her. | |
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Location: Carpenter, WY | Three 4 Luck - 2014-09-07 10:35 AM teehaha - 2014-09-07 11:14 AM Teehaha has done jigging that for all of her 30 years. She gets in a rhythm and can go all day and forever like that. She isn't hard to control at all, but it seems like it's just a comfortable way for her to travel. You can kind of see it in this video clip near the beginning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlsgEK6dYKg
that sounds exactly like Teehaha. They guys used to have long trotting 'contests' and she would leave them in the dust LOL
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