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| I have a mare that needs more handle put in her .. More body control , stop , etc .. She's a 1 d horse even with her issues . Her biggest thing is she swings her hindquarters in a turn. I want that fixed .. Do you think a reining trainer can do what I need ? |
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| A lot of that wil depend on who the trainer is and if they understand the concept of what you want done  |
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Location: PNW | I usually get help from a dressage trainer when my horse or myself need a tune up. In my opinion, I'd rather have a barrel horse whose movements resemble a dressage horse rather than a reiner. |
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| Well this is interesting ! Ok so how about a dressage trainer vs Reiner ? I agree with the dressage.. I just need a solid whoa too . |
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Location: PNW | Fancy Lass - 2015-03-23 7:02 PM
Well this is interesting ! Ok so how about a dressage trainer vs Reiner ? I agree with the dressage.. I just need a solid whoa too .
Dressage will give you a solid whoa, without any sort of reining theatrics that might be prone to happening. I have nothing against reiners. I just grew up riding jumpers and prefer a more dressage feel to my horses, because I still ride with a very English-type equitation/cueing/expectations. It will depend on you and your style/habits. |
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Location: PNW | When we need tune ups, I train with a gal who is a past FEI/USEF eventing competitor/coach/judge. The lady can get schmidt done, let me tell you. Lol my horse and I are both always sore after working with her. |
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Location: Texas | What you need to find is a good coach. Someone who can help YOU put a handle on your horse. It is a shame that we are having to look outside our discipline to do basic horsemanship stuff. :/
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Location: NC | grinandbareit - 2015-03-23 10:44 PM
What you need to find is a good coach. Someone who can help YOU put a handle on your horse. It is a shame that we are having to look outside our discipline to do basic horsemanship stuff. :/
THIS!!!
Maybe it's because I'm still new to this but I want to know how to fix issues myself. And to fix the issues that are because of myself. So I seek help from experienced people to help the horse AND me
I wouldn't choose reining. I don't want a reining handle. I want a barrel horse handle. I've rode a horse with a reining foundation. No thanks. Just didn't work for what I am used to. Wasnt a fan. |
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Location: PNW | grinandbareit - 2015-03-23 7:44 PM
What you need to find is a good coach. Someone who can help YOU put a handle on your horse. It is a shame that we are having to look outside our discipline to do basic horsemanship stuff. :/
Totally agree. I do enjoy the "change of scenery" though when I ride with my dressage coach. Definitely don't just send your horse off for basic skills though - work WITH them. |
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| Well I do know what I'm doing .. I don't need help from another barrel horse person. The horse I am on has been started with no foundation & she needs to learn a lot of what those dressage horses do or she will ever get any better .. Just continuing to the "barrel horse stuff " is not going go fix her . I have brought her a very long way .. But she needs more . When I bought her a year & a half ago she didnt even know how to stop or back .. At 6 yrs old . She's now 8 , she will stop , back , side pass , counterarc, bend around your leg . She is working on collection now . That's where I think the dressage trainer will come in .. She will collect at walk & trot but the lope she doesn't want to push from her rear as usual .. So she gets all hot & psycho .. Anyways , not trying to be rude but you can definiteky learn from another discipline as well . It can only better your horse . |
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Location: Where I am happiest | You will have WAY better success if you go to a reined cowhorse trainer instead of a stright reiner. They also understand speed and turning at speed because they have to use it to go down the fence and turn the cow back. Also, as a interesting side not, quite a few of the premier reined cow horse trainer's wives run barrels. I dont know where your at, but Jake Telford in Idaho and Jake Gorrel in Ca. both have wives that barrel race. |
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| ThreeCorners - 2015-03-24 7:33 AM
You will have WAY better success if you go to a reined cowhorse trainer instead of a stright reiner. They also understand speed and turning at speed because they have to use it to go down the fence and turn the cow back. Also, as a interesting side not, quite a few of the premier reined cow horse trainer's wives run barrels. I dont know where your at, but Jake Telford in Idaho and Jake Gorrel in Ca. both have wives that barrel race.
I am located in MO. My luck there isn't Any close lol but that totally makes sense ! |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Fancy Lass - 2015-03-24 7:59 AM ThreeCorners - 2015-03-24 7:33 AM You will have WAY better success if you go to a reined cowhorse trainer instead of a stright reiner. They also understand speed and turning at speed because they have to use it to go down the fence and turn the cow back. Also, as a interesting side not, quite a few of the premier reined cow horse trainer's wives run barrels. I dont know where your at, but Jake Telford in Idaho and Jake Gorrel in Ca. both have wives that barrel race. I am located in MO. My luck there isn't Any close lol but that totally makes sense !
He is in Smithsville Mo. Dont know how far that is from you, but if it's to far he may know someone closer.I just did a google search. http://www.calmiddleton.com/about-us/cal-middleton/ |
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Location: Where I am happiest | I also saw there is a Missouri Reined Cow horse assoc. |
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| ThreeCorners - 2015-03-24 8:14 AM
Fancy Lass - 2015-03-24 7:59 AM ThreeCorners - 2015-03-24 7:33 AM You will have WAY better success if you go to a reined cowhorse trainer instead of a stright reiner. They also understand speed and turning at speed because they have to use it to go down the fence and turn the cow back. Also, as a interesting side not, quite a few of the premier reined cow horse trainer's wives run barrels. I dont know where your at, but Jake Telford in Idaho and Jake Gorrel in Ca. both have wives that barrel race. I am located in MO. My luck there isn't Any close lol but that totally makes sense !
Oh really ? I thought he was just a Reiner ?? |
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| ThreeCorners - 2015-03-24 8:14 AM Fancy Lass - 2015-03-24 7:59 AM ThreeCorners - 2015-03-24 7:33 AM You will have WAY better success if you go to a reined cowhorse trainer instead of a stright reiner. They also understand speed and turning at speed because they have to use it to go down the fence and turn the cow back. Also, as a interesting side not, quite a few of the premier reined cow horse trainer's wives run barrels. I dont know where your at, but Jake Telford in Idaho and Jake Gorrel in Ca. both have wives that barrel race. I am located in MO. My luck there isn't Any close lol but that totally makes sense !
If you truly want a handle ... Hit up Cal. He is a great coach and will pick you apart but is honest and kind about it. Tell him Lindsey sent ya. I ride with him on a regular basis while training my cutting filly. |
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Location: North Dakota -> Colorado | I have recently started riding with a reining trainer, and let me tell you my own horsemanship and riding skills have improved tremendously, I can already feel the difference in my barrel runs, but then again when I go to him, I am riding a reining horse and not my barrel horse. I'm thinkng that the reason it is so good because this specific trainer does a lot with basics and why those building blocks are essential or applicable to all/most disciples. I think I may have found a needle in the haystack when it comes to trainers, and I don't expect most to be like him. |
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| Have been doing reining lessons for the past two years, bought a reining horse and don't compete with him but will puttye basic reining foundation on all my colts from here on out, I don't need a finished reiner to barrel race but the basics are so applicable to every aspect of trainingfor the pattern, staying in form, collecting, moving separate parts, it's totally worth spending time to learn |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | Fancy Lass - 2015-03-23 6:46 PM I have a mare that needs more handle put in her .. More body control , stop , etc .. She's a 1 d horse even with her issues . Her biggest thing is she swings her hindquarters in a turn. I want that fixed .. Do you think a reining trainer can do what I need ?
All of mine are reining trained but had a mare doing the same exact thing recently.
Her hocks and stifles were sore, so you might want to look at that as well. Injected her and it stopped. |
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| Canchasr1 - 2015-03-24 10:40 AM
Fancy Lass - 2015-03-23 6:46 PM I have a mare that needs more handle put in her .. More body control , stop , etc .. She's a 1 d horse even with her issues . Her biggest thing is she swings her hindquarters in a turn. I want that fixed .. Do you think a reining trainer can do what I need ?
All of mine are reining trained but had a mare doing the same exact thing recently.
Her hocks and stifles were sore, so you might want to look at that as well. Injected her and it stopped.
Just had the vet out & she's perfectly sound. She's done this all her life , so it's a terrible habit & it's all she knows . |
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