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Location: Somewhere around here | This happened after one ride in the bit. I'd change bit's if I could but I can't, horse likes it and I'm able to be really light in it and no other bits can compaire when we are running the barrels. What can I do to stop the rubbing?
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| You might try some vet wrap or sheep skin. |
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Location: MD | Couldn't you just bend the little hooks that the bridle attaches to out a little bit? |
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Location: Jersey Girl | Its prob not wide enough for your horse's face. Can you bend it out some maybe? |
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Location: Moving soon..... | I agree with all of the comments. |
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Location: Somewhere around here | I might be able to get my husband to bend them out some, good idea, I'm just worried that something bad might happen lol. And yes, he does have quite a large head; I can use regular bridles with any gag bit on him, so his big head is a blessing and a curse lol. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Well really need a picture with a full shot of the head so we can see how its sitting on your horse, but it does looks to narrow for your horse, spread out the nose peice so it wont be so tight. |
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| It may help if you loosen the curb chain a bit to allow the bit to move some. It is hard to see from the picture, but if your headstall is too tight it may be causing the bit to rub.  |
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Location: Somewhere around here | Thanks everyone! I'll try to get a better picture of it today. This was taken right after I rode him and he was ready to get the saddle off and eat his dinner lol, so he was a little hard to get a good picture of.
ETA: Took these pictures this morning. I took the bit guards off so you guys can get a better look at how it sits on his face. As you can see I'm able to have two fingers loosely unbetween his chin and curb chain, and I can put my hand in between the bit and his face, so the bit itself isn't tight on him. I also changed bridles from the original picture to this one and it seems like it fits a little better than the other with this combo bit. I also noticed today that it was only the right side that was rubbing his face, no rub marks on his left side. Thought that was odd.
      
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Location: Montana | fulltiltfilly - 2016-06-28 8:01 AM Its prob not wide enough for your horse's face. Can you bend it out some maybe?
That was my thought. |
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| I have this exact same bit, I vet wrapped it in lots of places because it's my 'whoa B___' bit and it worked nice on my crazy gelding. It rubbed him too, and he had a small head. Made his nose bleed without the noseband wrapped too. He had super sensitive skin though. It only rubbed the sides after turning a lot, we think due to how the bit moved during turns. |
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| Try loosening the bridle some. Looks like it is a little snug by the wrinkles in the horse's mouth. This will drop the bit down a little. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I think the bit is to tight also, you really only need one wrinkle with this type of bit, these combos are not a bit I like useing, I dont like the way they fit on the nose, I would rather see a combo with a chain nose peice.  |
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Location: Heart of Texas | IMO the bit needs to be loosened, only one wrinkle and the curb strap needs to be loosened. I see if 2 fingers fit perpendicular to the bottom of the jaw, not parallel. That bit is a lot, you don't need it as snug as some others. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | It looks like its sitting too high on his face |
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| fulltiltfilly - 2016-06-30 2:24 PM
It looks like its sitting too high on his face
I ran in this bit for years, it really does sit super high on their face. I only had one headstall that would go small enough to fit it, and it barely even had a wrinkle in the corner of his mouth. He had a pretty small head though.
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Location: Oklahoma | Combos like this , steel nose long shanks, esp w a 2pc mouth; aren't designed to be tight up high in mouth nor tight chinstrap/chain .. It will rub too tight or if too loose as the bridle hooks dig in when you move your hand out to the side , it is meant to be 2 hands as in whoa/rate or one hand straight back or up but .. Out is not possible and will result in digging into the face ( just like a fixed curb will) So wrap the cheeks w vetwrap , loosen it up a bit , and my suggestion would be racetime only .. It is not a training daily riding bit. I have a very big very strong boy who needs combos as I am not a 200lb man on a 1400 lb horse, but daily no .. And not for trails ( tho he does need a chain w port ) And he has very very sensitive skin so everything and I mean everything rubs him raw.. Halters, sheets, bugs, boots, bridles, girths etc.
Btw if you need the steel nose both the L&W version and the Reinsman LadyBug hack allow one hand action real well and any combo w a chain mouth frees up the shanks into independant shank action one handed for turns but still gives whoa/rate power w 2 hands. |
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| jewishprincess - 2016-06-30 12:52 PM IMO the bit needs to be loosened, only one wrinkle and the curb strap needs to be loosened. I see if 2 fingers fit perpendicular to the bottom of the jaw, not parallel. That bit is a lot, you don't need it as snug as some others.
Agree, way too tight on his mouth, need to let the headstall out. |
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| If it is only rubbing on one side, I would say the bit isn't balanced. If you like that bit, then I would suggest spending the 150-300 and have one made by a repitable bit maker such as Dave Elliott, I know he has one similar style without breaking any copyright laws. |
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| I am going to be honest. A lot of people around here used to use that bit when we did not know how to soften the horse. (Like 40 years ago). When you learn to really get your horse soft you will find that less is more. Rubbing the horse's face really is a good sign that the bit is not designed well. |
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