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| Curious to see if anyone has any experience hauling a horse sedated with dormosedan gel? Vet reccomened and we have a show coming up that is about an hour away. My mare was hauled 2-3x a week in a bumper pull 2 horse slant load without any problems and for some reason the last 3 times she has been hauled on a 4 horse slant load she has had kicking fits causing cellulitus. I have no clue why. She has hauled alone and with others. Her pasture mate was actually next to her both times. One time she was in the 2nd stall and the other times she was in the end stall. Can anyone help me or give me and reviews on this gel?
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | It wouldn't be my choice to give to a horse that I was going to haul. Even the gel can knock one out pretty good and you have to be very careful not to get any on you.
I have never used a tranq to haul a horse. I would start a new post and ask what kind of tranq people are using when hauling a horse.
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| I have never either which is why it made me extremely nervous. I've posted on another thread and some people have used it but not many. |
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| 1cc of Ace in the mouth does wonders and doesn't knock them out too much. I wear gloves when I give it, and only give it to mares.
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| lopnaround - 2017-10-18 11:27 AM
1cc of Ace in the mouth does wonders and doesn't knock them out too much. I wear gloves when I give it, and only give it to mares.
I assume only mares cause of the fear of penis paralysis for geldings? The only problems they have ever had with paralysis was in stallions and with considerably high doses. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Nevertooold - 2017-10-18 12:01 PM It wouldn't be my choice to give to a horse that I was going to haul. Even the gel can knock one out pretty good and you have to be very careful not to get any on you. I have never used a tranq to haul a horse. I would start a new post and ask what kind of tranq people are using when hauling a horse.
This, I had a vet give it to a horse after she couldn't hit his vein to make him sleepy for a dental float (never used that vet again). Horse was on the fight by the time she poked him for the 5th time and I told her to figure something else out. Anyhoo, horse was so sleepy it was like he was sedated. I would never haul anything like that myself. I'd be afraid they would go down in the trailer. Have you tried tied or untied? Backwards? hay bag, no hay bag? |
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| I've used it on a few horses over the last couple years. Never had any negative problems. It is pretty light, as in I gave it to one mare and you would have never known. I've used it to sedate jump mares. |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2017-10-18 2:08 PM
Nevertooold - 2017-10-18 12:01 PM It wouldn't be my choice to give to a horse that I was going to haul. Even the gel can knock one out pretty good and you have to be very careful not to get any on you. I have never used a tranq to haul a horse. I would start a new post and ask what kind of tranq people are using when hauling a horse.
This, I had a vet give it to a horse after she couldn't hit his vein to make him sleepy for a dental float (never used that vet again). Horse was on the fight by the time she poked him for the 5th time and I told her to figure something else out. Anyhoo, horse was so sleepy it was like he was sedated. I would never haul anything like that myself. I'd be afraid they would go down in the trailer. Have you tried tied or untied? Backwards? hay bag, no hay bag?
I have tried everything. Hay bag, no hay bag, tied untied. Tied with head up and tied looser. I feel like something is off with the actual trailer but im not sure. She has never hauled this bad in the other trailer we used to haul in. Maybe its too dark or something. |
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| Whiteboy - 2017-10-18 2:30 PM
I've used it on a few horses over the last couple years. Never had any negative problems. It is pretty light, as in I gave it to one mare and you would have never known. I've used it to sedate jump mares.
Ive heard its pretty light and then ive also heard its pretty heavy |
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| barrelhorse10 - 2017-10-18 2:36 PM
Whiteboy - 2017-10-18 2:30 PM
I've used it on a few horses over the last couple years. Never had any negative problems. It is pretty light, as in I gave it to one mare and you would have never known. I've used it to sedate jump mares.
Ive heard its pretty light and then ive also heard its pretty heavy
I know my farrier has used it often, he also thinks its pretty light. |
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Location: Ohio girl moved to PA | I wouldnt suggest giving the gel at the risk of her going down. I would suggest maybe riding back there with her for a short trip and see if maybe you can figure out what is triggering her. Does she do this all the time now? maybe she is developing some soreness somewhere? my gelding started having trailer issues when his hocks were going bad, got them injected and hes back to self loading now. It might be noisey or something could be shocking her if the wiring is bad. Ive never heard of a horse having issues when going to a bigger trailer.. Good luck, i know how frustrating trailer issues can be! |
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Location: South Georgia | I can't get the stuff to work. You have to insert it directly under the tongue, and you know how horses move their tongues around when you put a tube in it. I gave up. IV is easier. |
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Location: Way up North | Have you ever given Dorm to this horse? I have had two horses that needed less than half a dose and they were about falling over and another that could have the full dose and still be very alert and mobile. I would test out doseage at home before putting them in a trailer for sure.
I would maybe take a ride in back with her to see if you can figure out what is causing it beings it is a new issue. Maybe something really vibrates or bounces in there? I have heard ulcers can mke one kick in the trailer but that's a chicken vs egg deal in my opinion. I would try wrapping in back on tracks and putting soft rides on the hinds to offer some protection until you figure it out. Also, my vet had me give Zylkene to take the edge off a nervous mare. It isn't very strong but it helped her relax by herself. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Is there solid sides on each side of the horse in this trailer?
I had a horse that I had to give 2 stalls or he would scramble and about tear the trailer up. I ended buying him pretty cheap because of him tearing up trailers. Figured it out within the first hauling. I ended up buying a stock/combo trailer that had 2 straight load slots in the front and was open in the back. I hauled him backwards in it and never had another problem. He was claustrophobic and if he felt a solid walls when he spread his feet out he would panic.
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Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright, TX | Wouldn't use it when hauling a horse, for the reasons stated above.
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| FLITASTIC - 2017-10-18 1:37 PM lopnaround - 2017-10-18 11:27 AM 1cc of Ace in the mouth does wonders and doesn't knock them out too much. I wear gloves when I give it, and only give it to mares.
I assume only mares cause of the fear of penis paralysis for geldings? The only problems they have ever had with paralysis was in stallions and with considerably high doses.
Yes, this. My old boss (vet) ingrained in this in my head, but your point is a good one and probably more realistic.
Esp when given orally, risk is real low.
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Location: Willows, CA | I would not use it. On a side note, I have seen wiring issues cause an occasional slight electrical shock that makes a horse that has always hauled fine decide to kick the crap out of things. This is usually from a bare or worn wire that goes to the trailer brakes rather than the lights.
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| If you want to test the wiring issue unplug the trailer plug and go for a drive on a backroad. |
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Location: Willows, CA | FLITASTIC - 2017-10-19 2:35 PM
If you want to test the wiring issue unplug the trailer plug and go for a drive on a backroad.
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