SKM - 2015-02-24 1:29 PM  I can only speak from personal experience. I've been using PHT products for I have no idea how long. 15, 18 years? I've used them on heaven knows how many horses. I know all my horses well enough to know when something works and when it doesn't. Horses don't understand Placebo's. With a horse, a product works or it doesn't work and you as a person have to be smart enough to know the signs. I've suspected Vegas has some stifle soreness and has for the last couple of years. We got some of the MagnaCu stifle wraps. She started laying down and sleeping more. She now rears and bucks when she's outside. She hasn't done that in 2 years. She is snapping 2nd barrel now where before she'd stall on the backside. She's running harder. We keep her healthy with help from PHT. I looked into BOT. I didn't like the heat retention. Any vet will tell you for new injuries to use cold for the first 48 hours then switch to heat. My own experience with heat on new injuries is that while it might feel really good at first, once the muscles cool back down you are much more sore that you were prior to using that heat. Needless to say, I didn't go with the BOT products simply because PHT have shown me results and I'm a firm believer that they are all I really need.