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Trainers.... Do you shortcut "less athletic" horses?

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teehaha
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Posted 2014-01-31 9:02 PM
Subject: RE: Trainers.... Do you shortcut "less athletic" horses?


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WrapSnap - 2014-01-31 6:48 PM I don't get any of my horses "fancy" broke. They all walk, trot, lope, back softly and move laterally. Those who have been around long enough counter-canter circles and perform other advanced movements, as they develop the required strength. That having been said , my horses don't slide, spin, do true rollbacks, or anything of the sort. I don't train those movements for a number of reasons. Firstly, I don't think that they benefit a barrel horse. I want my horses moving forward and free at all times. Secondly, I don't want my horses responding to an inadvertent cue during a run. When I make one, they should go in doing their job and not be frazzled by a rider who sticks a heel in the wrong place, or pulls on their face a bit leaving a barrel. All of that having been said, I have taken several horses whom I felt had limited ability further than I thought capable. I do that by demanding that they use every ounce of impulsion and athleticism that they do have. I dig deeper on the less talented horses than I will the nice ones at an earlier stage. Some of them have to be at their best to be respectable. Those are the ones that I will be a bit more demanding of. I don't want to sour one, but they have to know that the alley means work. The ones who are going to be superstars can get away with "playing" a bit early on.
I like this answer.  I kind of feel like a good trainer with horsemanship is going to bring out the best in a colt whether or not it's the sharpest stick in the pile or the most athletic thing around, As a owner paying your bill I would expect you to do your best with my colt and not take any shortcuts.  If I send one out to be started I want someone to put a good foundation on them because it's going to stick with them all of their lives for whatever they end up doing.












 

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casualdust07
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Posted 2014-01-31 9:27 PM
Subject: RE: Trainers.... Do you shortcut "less athletic" horses?



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teehaha - 2014-01-31 9:02 PM

WrapSnap - 2014-01-31 6:48 PM I don't get any of my horses "fancy" broke. They all walk, trot, lope, back softly and move laterally. Those who have been around long enough counter-canter circles and perform other advanced movements, as they develop the required strength. That having been said , my horses don't slide, spin, do true rollbacks, or anything of the sort. I don't train those movements for a number of reasons. Firstly, I don't think that they benefit a barrel horse. I want my horses moving forward and free at all times. Secondly, I don't want my horses responding to an inadvertent cue during a run. When I make one, they should go in doing their job and not be frazzled by a rider who sticks a heel in the wrong place, or pulls on their face a bit leaving a barrel. All of that having been said, I have taken several horses whom I felt had limited ability further than I thought capable. I do that by demanding that they use every ounce of impulsion and athleticism that they do have. I dig deeper on the less talented horses than I will the nice ones at an earlier stage. Some of them have to be at their best to be respectable. Those are the ones that I will be a bit more demanding of. I don't want to sour one, but they have to know that the alley means work. The ones who are going to be superstars can get away with "playing" a bit early on.
I like this answer.  I kind of feel like a good trainer with horsemanship is going to bring out the best in a colt whether or not it's the sharpest stick in the pile or the most athletic thing around, As a owner paying your bill I would expect you to do your best with my colt and not take any shortcuts.  If I send one out to be started I want someone to put a good foundation on them because it's going to stick with them all of their lives for whatever they end up doing.












 

I agree with both of these statements! I too don't get mine fancy broke. Mine don't spin, and they will roll back off a fence. They know their leads, gait transitions, move off my legs and off my hands. Like WrapSnap said, as they stick around and their training progressing, they pick up the counter arcing and counter cantering as needed on the pattern. I train them for barrel racing, so the cues I need during the run are the ones I focus on- namely- UP IS GO AND SIT IS WHOA. When I raise up they move forward, when I sit down they shorten stride. When I put leg in- they move over. They all have a light handle, and they can turn a barrel. I don't want them so behind the bit that they don't run. I feel my horses are pretty easy to jump on and run.
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