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madredepeanut
Reg. Aug 2017
Posted 2018-01-12 5:09 PM
Subject: RE: Who would you breed to?





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madredepeanut - 2018-01-10 9:35 AM Merry For Corona (Corona Cartel x Merry For Money by Dash For Cash) has caught my eye recently. He’s coming 7, and his first foal crop was born in 2017. He’s pretty short backed, and overall I like the looks of him. He’s listed here on BHW, and his stud fee is $850.
I've met him before, he has the best disposition. Very quiet and easy going. Very correct. But I don't know of too many CC that have done very well in the arena, roping or barrels.
Rosas Cantina CC has won the most money (futurity, WPRA, the American, etc.) that I am aware of, but you’re right- as many foals that are out there, you don’t see them consistently winning big in the rodeo arena. Lisa Lockhart talked about how Rosa was pretty quirky and it took a bit for them to click, but she was the sweetest horse ever. I would be willing to take the risk on breeding my The Continental mare to MFC, because I think that horse would be one heckuva athlete!
Rosas Cantina has an exceptionally strong maternal side. There has been a few others as well. For the right price, I would consider it.
Most ppl can't afford direct offspring of CC is why he is not in the arena, yet. But sons and daughters of his are certainly producing winners in the arena, again when affordable. PYC's are really a hot ticket right now when barrel racers can get their hands on them as well as Ivory James offspring. Your just not seeing own sons or daughters because when they are affordable they are someone what older OTT with a ton of outs and probably have issues.
You aren't really seeing grandsons/granddaughters either.  I pulled the equistat reports...they just arent producing like everyone wishes they were.   
Your not going to see high numbers because they haven't been that many tried in barrels. CC is not a sire like DTF or of FS or these others where the fee was reasonable. The earnings for a PYC right now are pretty good to where I'd dang sure gamble on them being a contender. Not to mention greats like Promise me a Wagon....given the dam was Pie Sky Promises. The full sibling Pale Face Wagon hasn't been as successful but still a contender. Ivory James definitely has decent earnings in the barrel industry, to be a race horse sire. I honestly can't name off the top of my head a Corona Cartel stud marketed towards barrel racers that I like on the bottom, but the ones mentioned definitely have equistat earnings that warrant being bred to if you can afford. They just don't get in as many hands. Remember before Tres Seis hit big in the race world he was marketed at a cheaper fee to barrel horse and performance homes....CC never did that...never had to. Can you pull just barrel/roping reports on equistat? I don't ever mess with that so have no idea. Do you have the stats on PYC and Ivory James just for barrels/rope? If so would you post them it would be so interesting to see!

I have to agree with this. They never were affordable enough to get the interest in the arena, the race people are more than happy to keep IJ and so many other CC studs breeding track mares. DTF wasn't always so dang high, he had plenty of UT girls to make him famous before that price jumped. IJ and PYC have been pretty high as long as I can remember. If IJ stud fee were more in that $2000-$2500 range I would take a gamble on another one. But at $4000 I am more worried the foal will break a leg at a week old and I just won't invest that much. PYC is too high for me to even care what it is anymore.

We are contemplating breeding our Big Brown daughter to IJ in a couple years, but we would pursue racing the foal on the track once it's old enough, then hopefully start it on the barrels after its racing career. I have to agree, some of those stud fees are just too high to have the horse "only be a barrel horse", if that makes sense. That is a lot of money one would have to try and recoup somehow, so people are steering those foals to where they can profit the most- the track vs the arena. That is a HUGE risk to invest in, I agree.
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nettieb3
Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2018-01-14 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: Who would you breed to?



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