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wishes4kissez
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2016-04-01 1:24 AM
Subject: RE: "Full blooded" sibling



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TheOldGrayMare - 2016-03-28 10:41 AM

Here is an examploe of 2 mares I consider Full Sisters "in blood". Same sire but out of 2 full sisters:

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/blue+grass+bounce
 

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/bluegrass+kin

This seems very confusing to me as even full siblings (same sire, same dam) may share as little as 25% of the same DNA (as each parent passes half their DNA each time but which half and what combination of genes is going to be different each time). So to me considering the two mares may only share 25% of the same DNA I wouldn't consider their foals by the same stud full siblings. I mean I get its a thing people say but I just don't think a Foal out of the same mare is the same as one out of her full sister.
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wishes4kissez
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2016-04-01 1:33 AM
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OutlawsLastDance - 2016-03-28 10:44 AM

Murphy - 2016-03-28 11:05 AM I was always told:



By the same stud, out of the same mare = full sibling

By different studs, out of the same mare = half sibling

By the same stud, out of different mares = not half sibling



 

I'm curious how the highlighted is figured? If they have the same father, they have 50% of the same DNA. The same as if my father had had a child with a woman other than my mother, that child would be my half sibling.

They don't necessarily share the same 50% from the sire though. Yes he passed on 50% of his genes but which 50% he passes varys and because of this even full siblings may share as little as 25% of the same DNA.

But I also do not understand how they wouldn't be considered half siblings. I have heard people say you can breed two half siblings by the same sire to one another but never two out of the same dam. There was some clever rhyme that went with it something about a womb but I can't remember it lol. I wouldn't ever breed siblings of any sort together but always wondered what difference it made when people did!
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Mighty Broke
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2016-04-01 7:02 AM
Subject: RE: "Full blooded" sibling



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wishes4kissez - 2016-04-01 2:33 AM
OutlawsLastDance - 2016-03-28 10:44 AM
Murphy - 2016-03-28 11:05 AM I was always told:



By the same stud, out of the same mare = full sibling

By different studs, out of the same mare = half sibling

By the same stud, out of different mares = not half sibling



 
I'm curious how the highlighted is figured? If they have the same father, they have 50% of the same DNA. The same as if my father had had a child with a woman other than my mother, that child would be my half sibling.
They don't necessarily share the same 50% from the sire though. Yes he passed on 50% of his genes but which 50% he passes varys and because of this even full siblings may share as little as 25% of the same DNA. But I also do not understand how they wouldn't be considered half siblings. I have heard people say you can breed two half siblings by the same sire to one another but never two out of the same dam. There was some clever rhyme that went with it something about a womb but I can't remember it lol. I wouldn't ever breed siblings of any sort together but always wondered what difference it made when people did!

Cowans are breeding sons of Sun Frost to daughters of Sun Frost with great success. I have done it also, bred our son of Sun Frost to one of our daughters and got a popping nice colt. He is just two now and I have held him back rather than sell him because I want to se how he rides then I will have a better opinion on how it worked.
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