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dashnlotti
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2017-11-16 2:43 PM
Subject: RE: Sarcoids...What causes them?



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Well since this got bumped back up, I'll update!!

Ended up ordering the Xxterra.

Did the 4 days and wait method...and I thought I killed off my horse it was so gross. I decided it would take months if I did one at a time, so I attacked ALL of them at once for quicker recovery...

One refused to budge through 2 treatments and is now bigger than it was.

One fell off almost immediately and hasn't returned months later.

The huge ones in his flank? After the 2nd treatment they fell off. They're currently back to nearly the same size pre-treatment.

The flatter, scaly type? The scars are uglier than the sarcoids ever were.

Some healed very quickly, some are STILL not fully healed. I will say there was never any infection at all, no odor, and he didn't seem to be in pain at any point.

After further reading, I think my mistake was doing it while the flies were still out. So after the first frost, I'm going to do the 2 in his flank ONE more time and see if they stay gone...It seems flies and gnats can make them spread/grow on an already infected horse, per a couple articles I found.
It may be something I have to do every winter if they keep growing, we'll see!!
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azsun
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Posted 2017-11-16 4:30 PM
Subject: RE: Sarcoids...What causes them?


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dashnlotti - 2017-11-16 2:43 PM

Well since this got bumped back up, I'll update!!

Ended up ordering the Xxterra.

Did the 4 days and wait method...and I thought I killed off my horse it was so gross. I decided it would take months if I did one at a time, so I attacked ALL of them at once for quicker recovery...

One refused to budge through 2 treatments and is now bigger than it was.

One fell off almost immediately and hasn't returned months later.

The huge ones in his flank? After the 2nd treatment they fell off. They're currently back to nearly the same size pre-treatment.

The flatter, scaly type? The scars are uglier than the sarcoids ever were.

Some healed very quickly, some are STILL not fully healed. I will say there was never any infection at all, no odor, and he didn't seem to be in pain at any point.

After further reading, I think my mistake was doing it while the flies were still out. So after the first frost, I'm going to do the 2 in his flank ONE more time and see if they stay gone...It seems flies and gnats can make them spread/grow on an already infected horse, per a couple articles I found.
It may be something I have to do every winter if they keep growing, we'll see!!

I have the xxterra sitting on my counter. I'm reluctant to try it. My horse was abused and he is still wary of people. I've been warned it will make them sore and his is in the flank area.
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dashnlotti
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2017-11-17 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: Sarcoids...What causes them?



Off the Wall Wacky


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azsun - 2017-11-16 4:30 PM

dashnlotti - 2017-11-16 2:43 PM

Well since this got bumped back up, I'll update!!

Ended up ordering the Xxterra.

Did the 4 days and wait method...and I thought I killed off my horse it was so gross. I decided it would take months if I did one at a time, so I attacked ALL of them at once for quicker recovery...

One refused to budge through 2 treatments and is now bigger than it was.

One fell off almost immediately and hasn't returned months later.

The huge ones in his flank? After the 2nd treatment they fell off. They're currently back to nearly the same size pre-treatment.

The flatter, scaly type? The scars are uglier than the sarcoids ever were.

Some healed very quickly, some are STILL not fully healed. I will say there was never any infection at all, no odor, and he didn't seem to be in pain at any point.

After further reading, I think my mistake was doing it while the flies were still out. So after the first frost, I'm going to do the 2 in his flank ONE more time and see if they stay gone...It seems flies and gnats can make them spread/grow on an already infected horse, per a couple articles I found.
It may be something I have to do every winter if they keep growing, we'll see!!

I have the xxterra sitting on my counter. I'm reluctant to try it. My horse was abused and he is still wary of people. I've been warned it will make them sore and his is in the flank area.

The extent of his pain, was when I touched it, he would flinch. And he's already a jumpy horse. He never moved away from me, never pinned his ears, etc. I also gave him time off bc I know riding and stretching the area most likely would have made it painful.

I'm actually surprised he didn't show more pain...

Part of me wishes I had left them alone, but the other part knows they were steadily growing. It was to the point I had to do something, and that seemed like the best option after all my research.

My vet thinks he has some underlying immune issue going on, although the sarcoids seem to be the only thing "wrong" with him, just because of the number of them. From his head to his tail, I burned off 7 and missed 1 (a tiny one on his butt cheek). That 7 isn't including patches where there were multiple lumps.

The Xxterra seemed to work best on the small, typical sarcoids. Those fell off quickly and didn't seem to leave a scar, if there is one, it's covered by hair. The more scaly type are what scarred the worst-where the skin was already ugly.

Would I do it again??
Yes, although I would wait until winter when there is one less hassle with the flies and gnats.
And I probably would let a few of them just be for a while, instead of attacking them all.
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