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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-06-11 8:29 AM
Subject: RE: Horse with issues need advice



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I find this thread very sad on so many levels. I do understand your wanting to get rid of the horse due to your circumstances. We always have threads on BHW saying to dump a rearer ASAP, they are evil, you will get killed, blah blah blah.

Giving the ride time this horse has already had with no issues...something isn't right and that caused her to rear and flip. I agree that she could be sore or maybe the trainer screwed up. They tend to do that a lot.

Dump her in a sale or advertise her as a cowboy horse...that's not very good advise. May as well just haul her to the canner yourself if you go this route and save the mare being mistreated prior to her ending up there anyhow if the issue isn't addressed.

Sell her privately with full disclosure or sell her as a broodmare given her breeding and if she's conformationally correct.

Horses are large animals. If everyone unloaded a horse when it did something wrong...no one would ever own them. Young ones especially. They WILL put a foot out of place on occasion. Even the brokest, quietest horse out there can be set off.

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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2016-06-11 8:47 AM
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SKM - 2016-06-11 9:29 AM I find this thread very sad on so many levels. I do understand your wanting to get rid of the horse due to your circumstances. We always have threads on BHW saying to dump a rearer ASAP, they are evil, you will get killed, blah blah blah. Giving the ride time this horse has already had with no issues...something isn't right and that caused her to rear and flip. I agree that she could be sore or maybe the trainer screwed up. They tend to do that a lot. Dump her in a sale or advertise her as a cowboy horse...that's not very good advise. May as well just haul her to the canner yourself if you go this route and save the mare being mistreated prior to her ending up there anyhow if the issue isn't addressed. Sell her privately with full disclosure or sell her as a broodmare given her breeding and if she's conformationally correct. Horses are large animals. If everyone unloaded a horse when it did something wrong...no one would ever own them. Young ones especially. They WILL put a foot out of place on occasion. Even the brokest, quietest horse out there can be set off.
Agree.. I think there is another reason, I do not believe it is horses issue.. but i understand the posters fear..but its something  that maybe you can have someone ELSE work with.. I dont feel its the horse from what you have posted.. 

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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2016-06-11 9:13 AM
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Bibliafarm - 2016-06-11 8:47 AM
SKM - 2016-06-11 9:29 AM I find this thread very sad on so many levels. I do understand your wanting to get rid of the horse due to your circumstances. We always have threads on BHW saying to dump a rearer ASAP, they are evil, you will get killed, blah blah blah. Giving the ride time this horse has already had with no issues...something isn't right and that caused her to rear and flip. I agree that she could be sore or maybe the trainer screwed up. They tend to do that a lot. Dump her in a sale or advertise her as a cowboy horse...that's not very good advise. May as well just haul her to the canner yourself if you go this route and save the mare being mistreated prior to her ending up there anyhow if the issue isn't addressed. Sell her privately with full disclosure or sell her as a broodmare given her breeding and if she's conformationally correct. Horses are large animals. If everyone unloaded a horse when it did something wrong...no one would ever own them. Young ones especially. They WILL put a foot out of place on occasion. Even the brokest, quietest horse out there can be set off.
Agree.. I think there is another reason, I do not believe it is horses issue.. but i understand the posters fear..but its something  that maybe you can have someone ELSE work with.. I dont feel its the horse from what you have posted.. 

I have to agree with both of you....a "one-time" incident does not tell me that the horse is "evil" but that there were mitigating factors (too heavy hands, too harsh bit, soreness, teeth, etc, etc). I understand the OP's fear but sending her off to a "sale" barn is premature.  Try to find someone else to ride her or sell her privately with full disclosure.
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Talkeetnababe
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2016-06-11 1:14 PM
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I have a mare that did this a few times with a trainer I sent her to (that I trust 100%, have used in the past and used since) when she was 3. I had ridden her prior with no issues for 15 days and she has been ridden by multiple people since with no issues. Their styles didn't mesh. It happens. Not the trainers fault and not the mares fault.

I turned her out while I was pregnant (she was 4 at the time) and she was the first horse I got back on and I never even thought there was a need to put someone else on her first.

Some horses and people just don't click. No excuse for that behavior, but if you don't want to count her out completely then try someone else. Don't let it become a habit with someone that isn't meshing with her.
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chicks2
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Posted 2016-06-11 4:03 PM
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NJJ - 2016-06-11 9:13 AM

Bibliafarm - 2016-06-11 8:47 AM
SKM - 2016-06-11 9:29 AM I find this thread very sad on so many levels. I do understand your wanting to get rid of the horse due to your circumstances. We always have threads on BHW saying to dump a rearer ASAP, they are evil, you will get killed, blah blah blah. Giving the ride time this horse has already had with no issues...something isn't right and that caused her to rear and flip. I agree that she could be sore or maybe the trainer screwed up. They tend to do that a lot. Dump her in a sale or advertise her as a cowboy horse...that's not very good advise. May as well just haul her to the canner yourself if you go this route and save the mare being mistreated prior to her ending up there anyhow if the issue isn't addressed. Sell her privately with full disclosure or sell her as a broodmare given her breeding and if she's conformationally correct. Horses are large animals. If everyone unloaded a horse when it did something wrong...no one would ever own them. Young ones especially. They WILL put a foot out of place on occasion. Even the brokest, quietest horse out there can be set off.
Agree.. I think there is another reason, I do not believe it is horses issue.. but i understand the posters fear..but its something Β that maybe you can have someone ELSE work with.. I dont feel its the horse from what you have posted..Β 

I have to agree with both of you....a "one-time" incident does not tell me that the horse is "evil" but that there were mitigating factors (too heavy hands, too harsh bit, soreness, teeth, etc, etc). I understand the OP's fear but sending her off to a "sale" barn is premature. Β Try to find someone else to ride her or sell her privately with full disclosure.

Yes, very sad. Now that we have the technology to find problems, and the expertise to fix them, we know that horses do this because they're trying to tell you they're hurt.

I think back over the years and the horses we had that were 'arena sour', and just cringe after knowing what we know now. My daughter had this barrel and pole horse, nice horse. He refused at the gate, what did we do, spanked him because we thought he was bad. We competed on him until his late 20's, he lived to 36. I"m sure he had about a bazillion things wrong with him, but had a huge heart.

I can't wait to get to the rainbow bridge and apologize to everyone.
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